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Originally posted by KestryllOriginally posted by QuarterBoreGunnerOriginally posted by KestryllComment
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Question? For those talking about having ammo in their bag. Do you have a ccw and just have extra ammo in the bag. If no ccw, do you have a cheaper or small hand gun in your bag also? And if so, is it locked in a case so if you ever get pulled over or checked, you're transporting legally? A small gun vault or something similar would take up valuable space in the bag, wouldn't it? Or do you have it locked up seperately in the vehicle and just pack a holster in the bag? Got me thinking after reading some of the replies and I'm curious what ideas others have come up with.Comment
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It Might seem really stupid but.... I have my GHB wrapped in a SMALL TARP (less than $5) my GHB already floats and all contents are in a dry bag but it does not add that much weight can be used for tons of things! Just a thought.WTB M38 mosin
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JetBoil is cool but pricey and big. I have been camping with this for a couple years now and it works great. The stove and a small can of fuel fits inside a decent sized stainless steel cup.
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It is a little big, but I cant really compare it to much as this is the first stove that I have bought. I am impressed though, well made and everything fits inside the cup. They even make a French Press attachment
The kit I bought was the Flash and it was $100 plus the price of the canisters. I look forward to trying it in the near future.
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No CCW.?
You can transport unloaded in a lightweight zippered handgun bag. One that barely holds the handgun, zip it up and snap a cheap combo lock on the zipper hoops.
Keep a loaded magazine loose in the GHB. There are no rules for transporting ammo.
I personally would not choose a 'cheap' handgun. I would transport my good quality handgun that I trust and have trained with. In an actual crisis you want the best you got.
Assuming you're on foot, for example after a large earthquake, roads and over passes are down and you have no options other than hoof it 14 miles home, you will no doubt be in a large crowd of others making their way home.
You don't want to panic people who see your handgun. So pack a cheap holster and a nylon rain poncho that covers your waistband while walking home.
Just my opinion.
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Fewer people are killed with all rifles each year (323 in 2011) than with shotguns (356), hammers and clubs (496), and hands and feet (728).Comment
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I haven't seen the French press gizmo, that's cool. The S comes damn close HTF just about everyday prior to my coffee!
I should have probably mention all my camping is done by motorcycle. If not for that I would probably have a JetBoil or MSR myself.
It is a little big, but I cant really compare it to much as this is the first stove that I have bought. I am impressed though, well made and everything fits inside the cup. They even make a French Press attachment The kit I bought was the Flash and it was $100 plus the price of the canisters. I look forward to trying it in the near future.sigpicComment
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Combat Casualty Blanket (emergency survival blanket) is worth the minimal space required to house it. i have numerous examples of the Harris Mfg. Co. Inc. blanket and keep a few in my truck. the blanket is lightweight, waterproof, opens to 96"X56" and folds up to almost nothing.
sholling's suggestion (post #4) of emergency poncho and bivvy bag is on the money; great items to include in your bag.Comment
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I've taken a slightly different approach to a BOB. My thinking is there is enough room in my car to have a bag with 10-15 days worth of supplies plus water filtration and gear to last much longer if need be. It fits in a 4000ci backpack. I have the following:
Clothing (summer & winter)
Hiking boots
Emergency sleeping bag
First aid kit
3 types of water filtration
Knife
Multi tool
duct tape
flashlights (2)
headlamp
gloves
pri bar
tarp
Water - 8 pints
water bottle 1 quart
water bag 2 quart
hydration for backpack
fire starters - 4 different types
food - protein bars, de hydrated,lifeboat rations, MREs
Multi fuel backpack stove
Backpack pots
trash bags, zip lock bags
Glock 19, holster,mags, light & ammo, etc.
Other stuff mentioned above
I'll admit this is way too much stuff for me to carry, however, you never know where you'll end up when the SHTF. If I need to hump it home 30 miles I'll lighten the load to <20lbs. If I'm stuck a 100 or 500 miles then I have options for survival I would not have if I limited by kit to a 48 hr bag.Comment
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Thats my tack, I have a rolling suitcase in my vehicle and all the goodies in it.
Sometimes I am 200, 100 or 50 miles from home and the situation/event dictates what I will need to get home, so I have options on what to put in the backpack or supplies to just shelter in place. I have less gadgets and more water than anything else. The rolling suitcase and a case of sports bottles is also stealthy, does not peak anyones interest and the suitcase has locking zippers so I don't have to worry as much about knife laws in foreign jurisdictions. I keep different subsystems labeled and the just get added to the backpack as conditions require.
"The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. BenitezComment
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Ok are we talking 48 hour bag or bug out bag???
My essentials would be
a good UL sleeping bag,
sawyer mini,
a couple 1L platypus bags,
an unopened large bottle of smart water,
Shelter of some sort (I have tarp tent stratspire II or Hennessey hammock UL), use whatever you like, cheap tarp etc
Lighter + Ferro rod for rain/lighter failure
Char cloth/petroleum soaked cotton balls
Good knife
Add protection of whatever your choice if you feel the need
A lot of it depends on the situation and where you are.
Other than that it's only 2 days. It doesn't take a lot to live for two days, water and shelter. Pretty much anything after that is just for comfort, so add what you feel you need. Big difference and confusion over X hour bag, and BOB. Anything under 3 days could be a very small bag. Once you get in to extended stay such as needing to procure food and such then you start needing to haul a lot.
If you have the time test it out. Go camp or do something for two days and see what you wished you had.
When I used mine I wished I had liquor. A lot of people on Youtube and everywhere else talk trash on oh you are so oveweighted, you don't need this and that to survive. Correct. You don't NEED it. You don't need much at all in fact. However, wait until you are in a situation and desperately wished you HAD it.Last edited by RandyRhoads; 09-27-2014, 11:07 AM.Comment
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Unfortunately I run hot and perspire a lot, so I need a Vietnam style load-out of water, 8 canteens, four plain water and 4 water with additives. I can easily hike 20 miles per day with little weight but water is the achilles heal and the path I would take would not offer much freshwater if an earthquake took out the delivery system. So my pack would be heavy with water. Winter of course would make it easier.
Backpackable desalination kit would solve all my problems.
"The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. BenitezComment
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