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Are Gold and Silver gonna keep going down?
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So Gold outperformed 8 of the 30 Dow stocks
Happy New Year Smashy and Cal Gunners.
Don't forget dividends... I know it is easy for you gold bugs to forget about that since your gold doesn't give off dividends.. but us stock/bond folks are well aware of the benefits. T, VZ and MCD did better than gold as well.. so the real number is 5 of 30..
The S&P 500 index is really the one to beat and it was up 11.4% and add in a 1.8% dividend.. If you like having lots of dollars having a nice diversified portfolio of stocks and bonds at the cheapest price possible (indexing) has always been the way to go.
Gold & Silver continue to be a suckers game. High expenses, high volatility.. low return.Comment
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New Years Day 2016 I project
Gold $1025 having been below $1k once or twice
Silver $13.75 having been below $12.5 a few times.
DOW 18,500 not a big yr....Comment
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Over the next 12 months I expect to see Silver below 12.50 touching $10 intraday. Gold definitely under $1,000.
The DJIA, should be around 20,000 as interest rates make a small increase of 1/2 a point in 2 1/4 point increases in the 3rd and 4th quarters of 2015.
Growth will slow as incomes increase to support higher housing values.
Interest rates are the key as is the 2016 election.
Oil should stay low for the foreseeable future with a high of $80 a barrel and a low in the high $40's.
Finally a stronger dollar will increase the purchasing power of most Americans since we import most of our goods as we have become a more service orientated economy.
I don't see precious metals as a good investment over the next 12 months.
Happy New YearComment
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I'm going with the two best currencies will be Gold and the Dollar, in that order.
Greece will default and BK, forming a new currency backed by their Gold. The Euro zone goes wtf and begins bail-ins.
Russia and China weather the European turmoil and by year end China's yuan becomes a reserve currency held by all central banks at least in small proportions.
U.S> stawks take a haircut 5%, treasuries gain with lower rates. 10 yr. pushes 1.5% and the world is a mess.
Oil ends near $50 and the Dollar at 92. US/Jpn trades 140.
2016 is the blow up of all the QE as Japan prints more yen then ever dreamed of. RE is flat to down 2%.
Japan sinks into the abyss.Comment
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$30 swing up in Gold. Why? Pretty simple, Germany's 5 yr. bond now is negative interest, it's a form of rich bail-in or just stay even. Couple this with the ISM report and it should leave no doubt the US is in a major slowdown also.
The market lost it's morning gains and is a sign of things to come. Sell Sell Sell everything and try to hold your wealth in the least possible risk possible.
Got GOLD?Comment
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It's just poor people thinking. Poor people try to hold onto wealth (and many do it in very stupid manners, simple saving accounts or putting it into silver/gold) , rich people try to grow it (and do it very smartly, start businesses, buy stocks and bonds) .
Nope!Last edited by smashycrashy; 01-02-2015, 1:26 PM. Reason: said price of gold, meant price of oil for ISM reportComment
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Smashy, remember the days gone by when you were a child at the playground on the swing. You used to pump higher and higher achieving greatness, then the free fall.....
Gulp, lets go try the slide nowComment
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Smashy you are right as usual, we are doing great !
Eighteen Trillion Forty Billion Two Hundred and Twenty Four Million give or take a few bucks.Comment
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So long as the dollar has the value it does the debt for our country isn't an issue. QE produced no meaningful inflation as all the gold peddlers said it would and likely stayed a serious deflation. Give the powers that be credit for avoiding a decent storm thanks to the housing bubble in 08/9 brought on by idiotic lending principles I can only hope we won't revisit.Comment
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