BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

[meaty-btz]

Firecloud business executive? Easy armor that everyone else wishes they could afford. Executive Armor. Looks like a good suit or sports jacket, protection as good as you get in normal body armor. But it's custom and costs. You'd better be a millionaire and then some to afford it. The President wears it. Trump doesn't, which surprises me because he can afford it.

[FireCloud9]

^^^^Is it less than $10k?

I'm thinking something less formal than a suit or sports jacket.

I don't keep up with the advances in armor technology. What thin, light-weight materials are on the horizon that would make it possible for polos, t-shirts, etc. to one day have the capability to stop small caliber rounds?

How far out are we - 10? 20 years?

[meaty-btz]

Less than 10k? That's a laugh. The suits run 100k or more each.

[blkside]

https://www.spartanarmorsystems.com has some exceptional setups and cost is very reasonable.

[Lebaneseblonde]

Noob question...... Trauma pads Vs spall pad..... Same function?

Or. It's a sandwich deal. Spall pad /plate /trauma pad?

[FireCloud9]

Less than 10k? That's a laugh. The suits run 100k or more each.

Well that's the point of my question. Looking for casual business attire, not an entire suit. Specifically, just for the torso - a shirt w/undershirt of flexible armor.

I guess the materials technology hasn't advanced much yet if it's still in the $100k range.

[97F1504RAD]

Noob question...... Trauma pads Vs spall pad..... Same function?

Or. It's a sandwich deal. Spall pad /plate /trauma pad?

Trama pad goes behind plate be it steel or ceramic plate and is meant to help absorb/dissipate impact of round, spall guard is meant for use with steel plates and is meant to trap or stop shrapnel from spalling outward when it hits the steel and splatters onto your neck arms or wherever else it may go.

[Lebaneseblonde]

Trama pad goes behind plate be it steel or ceramic plate and is meant to help absorb/dissipate impact of round, spall guard is meant for use with steel plates and is meant to trap or stop shrapnel from spalling outward when it hits the steel and splatters onto your neck arms or wherever else it may go.

I get that.
So then.... Are people doing the sandwich? Spall protection on top... The plate.... Then a trauma pad?.
To me.. Trauma seems to be a no brainer .. 1 cm of intrusion... Yes it will hurt, busted rib .. Likely and with that, busted rib can mean a popped lung. Then again, concussion can pop a lung but a smaller chance but bones shards can happen.

Vs flying shards... Line x undercoating actually minimizes this occurrence? Or it's just a feel good option?



Btw to everyone posting, thanks . Mountain of wealth

[meaty-btz]

Actually it is that expensive because it uses the most advanced materials that are not yet mass producible. It also is because prices like that keep the peon away. Kind of like the 100k custom over-under that is easily accessible to those it is intended for in England and they can even keep it at home or carry it in their car unlike the unwashed British masses.

[97F1504RAD]

I get that.
So then.... Are people doing the sandwich? Spall protection on top... The plate.... Then a trauma pad?.
To me.. Trauma seems to be a no brainer .. 1 cm of intrusion... Yes it will hurt, busted rib .. Likely and with that, busted rib can mean a popped lung. Then again, concussion can pop a lung but a smaller chance but bones shards can happen.

Vs flying shards... Line x undercoating actually minimizes this occurrence? Or it's just a feel good option?



Btw to everyone posting, thanks . Mountain of wealth

It's all personal choice. I personally have backers but no spall guards due to the fact that I do not have steel plates.

[Rickrock1]

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[GOLDEN GUN]

I ended up with going with a line x coating on my plates, then a 10x12 3A soft armor plate underneath, as well as the 3A balcs soft Armour under that.

Might be overkill but it sure is a "feel good" feeling

[Buffman]

Here's another level III+ steel. Based on the M193 results, if you're going to use steel, I'd have no issues recommending this manufacturer. Also got to test MIL-46100 which some companies use.

[dx2]

i think i am down to 2 options....patriot armor 3+ and ar500 lightweight 3+. was considering patriot plate 2, but that doesn't seem to be available any more.

with base coating, the patriot is about 7lbs, ar500 lightweight is 6.5 lbs. i don't think i like the extreme cut ar500 offers at 5.5 lbs. looking to use d-rmor's spall guards if i can get them.

patriot claims to stop xm193 up to 3200fps. ar500 says 3000fps in description but further down they indicate 3300fps. this is a 'v50' rating, which i think may mean it will stop this 50% of the time?

opinions?

thanks.

[C.W.M.V.]

Been waiting for a while to see how the Patriot 2 plates do against M193, where did they go?