BODY ARMOR: The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly

[BDR529]

Just curious if anyone here has received any of the Main Gun Surplus plates? The last I heard was that they were hoping to have them in house and start shipping the second week of September. If anyone placed an order, did you receive them yet?

[LeadFarmer74]

Just curious if anyone here has received any of the Main Gun Surplus plates? The last I heard was that they were hoping to have them in house and start shipping the second week of September. If anyone placed an order, did you receive them yet?

Was just looking at their website and they don't have much info up . Seems like the OP has more info then they do. So I've read through all the pages and it seems like the two best options for steel plates right now are.....
1. Armour Wear AR680 Level 3+

https://armour-wear.com/shop/all/ar680-steel-plate/

2. Main Gun Patriot Plate Version 2 Level 3+

https://www.maingun.biz/Body_Armor_Patriot_Plates_Version_Two_p/patplate2pair10x12.htm

Is this correct? Anyone bought from either company yet?
Edit: just watched a video on #1 and it was defeated with a 22" bolt gun.

http://youtu.be/uX3XRUUqjvM

[neomedic]

Armour Wear is having a sale on their plates (20% off). Is better to get the AR 680 plates (level 3+) or wait for more info from Main Gun Patriot Plate gen2???

Armour Wear 10x12 plates x2 will be $239 shipped.

[LeadFarmer74]

Armour Wear is having a sale on their plates (20% off). Is better to get the AR 680 plates (level 3+) or wait for more info from Main Gun Patriot Plate gen2???

Armour Wear 10x12 plates x2 will be $239 shipped.

Armour wear was defeated by a 22" bolt gun. http://youtu.be/uX3XRUUqjvM

[C.W.M.V.]

Well everything is gping to be defeated by something I recon.
Does it still do well against 20" ARs?

[neomedic]

A test done by Armour Wear said it withstood M193 from a 20" barrel. Youtube video at 6:15 gives a recap of what was shot during the test.

[BDR529]

Slight update on the Main Gun Surplus plates. The site has been updated and they list their 10X12's as 6 lbs 5 oz. So if it's between the Armour Wear and Min Gun, you're looking at $225 for the Main Guns at 12 lbs 10 oz. total, or $458 for the Armour Wear's at 9 lbs for front and backs...

[cpricejr1903]

Slight update on the Main Gun Surplus plates. The site has been updated and they list their 10X12's as 6 lbs 5 oz. So if it's between the Armour Wear and Min Gun, you're looking at $225 for the Main Guns at 12 lbs 10 oz. total, or $458 for the Armour Wear's at 9 lbs for front and backs...

I'm trying to see how you come up with your Armour Wear numbers...

I come up with the following for 2- 10x12 plates = $323.30 (taxed & S/H) and 14#'s (with coating, 12.4#'s w/out coating)...

[Eric_Oh]

Can someone confirm/clarify what miangun product were talking about?

Blog post by maingun and also linked from dr's blog shows namr as patriot plate 3.

Current newest product lists as pp2

Did someone at maingun goof somewhere on the name?

I thought this newest product was third gen for them. Confused....
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[cpricejr1903]

It all comes down to attributes. The Armour Wear plates are bargain plates- they are only level IV, weigh 7.5 lbs. and are .75" thick.

The VelSys plates are level III and IV with a backer. They are .60" thick, and weigh a full 1.3 lbs. less.

Basically, they are better plates, well worth more than twice the price. I recommend ALL rifle plates be worn with backers, just for the extra margin of safety.

They are not a bad deal, but with the VelSys, you are paying more for the weight and thickness reduction.

d-r: so is the Armour Wear AR680 a "stand alone" and if not, what's your recommendations on what to pair with it?

[BDR529]

I'm trying to see how you come up with your Armour Wear numbers...

I come up with the following for 2- 10x12 plates = $323.30 (taxed & S/H) and 14#'s (with coating, 12.4#'s w/out coating)...

I apologize, I should have specified. I am more interested in weight, after ballistics of course, so I was comparing to Armour Wear's PE and Kevlar option, not their AR 680's...

[cpricejr1903]

I apologize, I should have specified. I am more interested in weight, after ballistics of course, so I was comparing to Armour Wear's PE and Kevlar option, not their AR 680's...

Copy! I thought I had an outdated webpage

[BDR529]

Also, I'm now very interested in the ballistics testing of the main gun plates. They are currently not coated, and weigh 6.3 lbs, whereas the non-coated Armour Wear AR-680 plates weigh only 6.2 lbs. So, will the non-coated Main Gun plates out-perform the non coated AR-680 plates? I would hope so since the new manufacturing from Main Gun is supposed to be stronger and lighter. Just questions to consider as new information is coming out...

[WarthogKeeper]

So it is clear there are options available to fit what ever budget you may have. It's clear that testing shows AR500 and above will stop a myriad of projectiles sans 30-06 AP from avg barrel length.

It's all good info to have....yet there is a question and scenario that needs to be addressed for hard plates. How do projectiles react with high angles at impact?

It is apparent that projectiles hitting steel plates will ricochet at the typical angle. What is the reaction of a projectile off of a composite/ceramic/ polymer plate?

The likelihood of high angle impacts are low but it is still a concern. What Say those who have active experience?

[Steve_In_29]

So it is clear there are options available to fit what ever budget you may have. It's clear that testing shows AR500 and above will stop a myriad of projectiles sans 30-06 AP from avg barrel length.

It's all good info to have....yet there is a question and scenario that needs to be addressed for hard plates. How do projectiles react with high angles at impact?

It is apparent that projectiles hitting steel plates will ricochet at the typical angle. What is the reaction of a projectile off of a composite/ceramic/ polymer plate?

The likelihood of high angle impacts are low but it is still a concern. What Say those who have active experience?

No offense but this sounds like a repeat of the posts that had to be cleaned up from this thread recently.