CA DFG Meeting Van Nuys Jan 15 12:00-4:30

[HOGDOG1955]

sickening just sickening.

[Eric Mayer]

I don't know how many of you know of this organization, but I have followed them closely for a while now. They offer very good information and facts that can be used to counter the belief that the HSUS is a caring non-profit.

Perhaps discrediting them at the board about their fund-raising techniques, the money spent on shelters and other information, might offer a different approach for a few folks.

Here is the site:
http://www.humanewatch.org/

Eric

[lewdogg21]

I posted these links over at the refuge forums CA flyway and it got 1/3 - 1/2 of the replies here. Not all hunters care apparently.

[mif_slim]

Lewdogg, its sad because I say 80-90% hunters are weekend worriors only. It doesnt effect them because its only a leasure or pass time for them. Its not in their blood and tradition like the other 10%.

Just look at how many road hunters there are vs car parked on the side...

[HOGDOG1955]

i was at the capital to see a bunch of hard old men alot of em vets cry when the hound ban was shoved down our throats. it will be much easier for them to eliminate every gun but a single shot 22 rifle once it is illegal to hunt in this state.i know im not alone in feeling that for yrs and yrs i have tried and tried to preach to others about what is coming and all i get is oh it doesnt affect me. i just want to slap those who say well dog hunting probably isnt fair or humane. the antis want it all folks and they are getting it.

[VaderSpade]

http://www.outdoornewsservice.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=520%3Afish-and-game-commission-may-ban-bobcat-hunting-all-trapping-for-profit&Itemid=18

[hikingwithguns]

So nice of them to schedule this right in the middle of the work day.

[njineermike]

They are also going after Predator Hunting and Non-game hunting. Use of Dogs, Trapping, Depredation, are all under attack. All the proposed changes are made by the HSUS and Project Coyote.

Here is the link. Click on Agenda
http://www.fgc.ca.gov/meetings/2014/index.aspx

WT holy F? Since when does HSUS and some activist group write fish and game rules and dictate the content of meetings???

[njineermike]

if anyone thinks that they were only going after dogs used for bears I have a sub with screen doors to sell you. they will go after waterfowl use and upland use of dogs next.

the HSUS are not the only ones backing these bans.

yeah the one thing to tell the DFG at the meeting is the science doesn't back up the law.

Do you recall how many HUNTING (supposedly) gun owners (also supposedly) right here on CG chimed in to support the ban on hound hunting? Or the "I don't hunt so I don't care" responses?

[chris]

Do you recall how many HUNTING (supposedly) gun owners (also supposedly) right here on CG chimed in to support the ban on hound hunting? Or the "I don't hunt so I don't care" responses?

that's because they are short sighted and have no clue that they will come after their guns next. it's the same argument of AR's and hunting rifles and lets not forget SASS shooters who sold us out on AR's I have both and hunt as well so don't lump me in with those who do not care.

I will be pissed off to see a ban introduced to ban the use of dogs for upland and or waterfowl hunting. if that happens there will be some pissed off hunters. but they will never outnumber the ignorant and the ones who want it banned.

[Eric Mayer]

i was at the capital to see a bunch of hard old men alot of em vets cry when the hound ban was shoved down our throats. it will be much easier for them to eliminate every gun but a single shot 22 rifle once it is illegal to hunt in this state.i know im not alone in feeling that for yrs and yrs i have tried and tried to preach to others about what is coming and all i get is oh it doesnt affect me. i just want to slap those who say well dog hunting probably isnt fair or humane. the antis want it all folks and they are getting it.

Yep.

When they passed the ban on foothold traps back in 1998 (Proposition 4), the only real folks who helped out the trappers were the houndsmen. They, like the trappers who got left out in the cold by the outdoor orgs, knew that after the ban on trapping, the ban on hounds would probably be next.

The anti's love to divide, then conquer. They pick groups and activities that they know the general hunters won't support and they turn us against each other. They will chip away at hunting until there is none left, unless we finally come together and stop them.

Eric

[hikingwithguns]

From the agenda:

"The Committee will not consider comments regarding proposed changes to regulations
that have been noticed. If you wish to provide comment on an otherwise noticed item,
please provide your comments during Commission Business meetings, via email or fax,
or deliver to the commission office."

So, they won't take comments on what the Inhumane society and ProjectWhinote are proposing? I'm confused.

Glockman my question, like yours would be where is the hunter representation on the predator committee and how much did HSUS and other anti-hunters pay to have seats at that table? Where is the science to back up their claims? What do F & G wildlife biologist have to say?

Also, have they condsidered the impact on pronghorn antelope if they implement a season/tags for coyote? What do the F&G biologists say?

[tony270]

If we could only get 20% of the folks that have invested in a high dollar caller to show up it may help, it couldn't hurt.

It seems like they are seeking a season and a limit for coyotes (472. Season and Limit on Coyotes)

And to stop all bobcat hunting (478. Bobcats)

They also want to ban all electronic callers (475. No Recorded Sounds).

[bigboarstopper]

Just a matter of time now. My experience at the at the state Capitol over the hound bill and seeing the general complancey of the hunting public has spoken for itself. What surprises me the most is how suddenly fired up people have become. Shoulda been fired up a long time ago. What we are seeing is not the possibility of losing our hunting rights, it's the systematic destruction of them.

The system to dismantle hunting has been put into place. The money has been allocated (HSUS). The political party do get it done is in complete power (dem). Why get mad now? Oh wait, it's because they are after what you like to hunt. You had my support. You simply have my sympathy now.

[Wideflange]

Holy cripes