Can we Prevent 2nd Civil War ?

[problemchild]

I may be wrong but I cannot see the "I have nothing to hide" crowd defending themselves for ANY reason.

Their guns will be confiscated like all the rest. There are a few that will fight and die but it wont be enough.

[mcsoupman]

The aftermath would suck. Nothing would really be decided. The losing side would go underground, which would either mean the formation of a true police state in response (and don't kid yourself into thinking it would be any different if conservatives won - they probably would), or a festering wound that would bleed and weaken the nation again, later.

We have to prevent another Civil War. We need to work hard to work out our differences, think about the many things we take for granted. We need to remember how strong we are as a nation now - and how terrible it would be to lose that strength.

Avoiding a bloodbath is cheaper, and there's less annoying crying.

All really good points, just didn't want to copy the whole thing. The reality is a civil war would be terrible. I also agree that if we went to internal fighting, we would be totally open to any terrorist attack or just an opportunistic county like China to come in and do some serious damage.

And yes, conservatives win by a landslide. The only strength libs have is in control because they can't win by basis of argument or force. Once the control goes so do they. Local police forces may split but the Armed Forces I think will quickly divide and control will go conservative.

Maybe a "coup" would be a more apt representation.

[Ripon83]

KPSFO very well written and very right on cue. I think some people are so angry they think that a civil war is feasible, and they have little idea of the impacts. They dont' know what'd be like if their iPhone didn't work, their was no electricity or city water. Then would come the lack of police protection when the thugs arrived at their door. Very very ugly in deed.

Succession by a state is possible. I don't know what happens then if a US "leader" would follow the path to civil war or let them go? Texas would be my bet as the first to go, Alaska a close second, but not Arizona....they'd be over run from the south by themselves.

[MontClaire]

There are so many different people with different cultures and views of life living in USA that we are bound for conflict sooner or later. If history teaches us anything it starts when decent size of population is angry at it's government for legitimate or artificial reason fueld by an outside influx of political, monetary and military support. People in US lost power to corruption and behind the scenes cardinals. It will be hard to take it back without an outside military help. Back to homeland, I don't see anyone who want's to be first. Hence I think we're gonna stagnate untill we all broke and live like a 3rd world country.

[Joewy]

It would probably be like last time. The cause of a Civil War II would be the right to self determination and/or serious issues that the federal government pushes or refuses to address. The stated reason for a Civil War may cited as a single issue. Last time, it was slavery.

I found the second to the last paragraph of the article in the OP to quite on point. I'm still not convinced that there are enough who are willing to put their money where their mouth is, both literally and figuratively.

The civil war had nothing to do with slavery.

It had to do with the Federal goverment overreaching its mandate and trying to impose the will of one group over another. Sounds kind of familliar dosent it....

[HUTCH 7.62]

I think the next civil war will be a war of Races/illegal immigrants, with the government in the middle.

[dustoff31]

The civil war had nothing to do with slavery.

It had to do with the Federal goverment overreaching its mandate and trying to impose the will of one group over another. Sounds kind of familliar dosent it....

I know that. That's why in my eariler post I made the distinction between the actual cause of the war, and the stated reason, or excuse if you will, according to the north.

[Joewy]

I know that. That's why in my eariler post I made the distinction between the actual cause of the war, and the stated reason, or excuse if you will, according to the north.

Sorry. Missed that.

[mcsoupman]

I've thought for awhile that we are at some impassable points philosophically/socially/morally. Secession was tried once and failed. But sometimes I wish we could just line up and pick a side (geographically). Problem is all the cool places I want to live are more "liberal" than me. I would get stuck in South Dakota or something.

Almost be a cool experiment. Liberal/Progressives live east of Texas, Conservatives/Libertarians live west. Then lets see which side is better off after say 15 years.

[The War Wagon]

I think the only thing that will trigger civil war is total economic collapse and collapse of the government - which at the rate we're going may end up happening in the next couple of years months - maybe weeks.

Fixed it for ya'!

[Joewy]

I've thought for awhile that we are at some impassable points philosophically/socially/morally. Secession was tried once and failed. But sometimes I wish we could just line up and pick a side (geographically). Problem is all the cool places I want to live are more "liberal" than me. I would get stuck in South Dakota or something.

Almost be a cool experiment. Liberal/Progressives live east of Texas, Conservatives/Libertarians live west. Then lets see which side is better off after say 15 years.

South Dakota is a pretty nice place. Have you been there???

[oldsmoboat]

The first two reason for a civil war are so lame that I couldn't even start to read the article.

[Bert Gamble]

I do think that a 2nd Civil war is in our future, but not in my lifetime, or for the reasons that the writer has listed.

There is one major demographic that is on the decline in the United States due to an alarmingly low birth rate. It is so near the point of no return that there is little chance of its survival.

There are two major demographics that are on the rise due to very high birth rates. These demos will fight for control of this country in about 100 years or so. The only question is if the fight will be political or military.

Given the current level of violence and mistrust exhibited between these two groups, it is difficult to see a peaceful resolution to their differences.


There are similar changes on the horizon in Europe, but the demographic groups there are based on religion rather than race. The current majority demo will also fall much more quickly, as they have already reached the point of no return.


I hope that no one takes these comments as racially or culturally biased, as this is not my intent. There are just some things that will happen, whether we are politically correct or not.

[Bert Gamble]

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[Sunday]

Civil war??? Obama will save us.