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  • crufflers
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2011
    • 12722

    Originally posted by sgt1372
    I also thought I was done buying ZTs
    You didn't like the looks of the 0055, but have you actually flipped it? I think if you handled it you would buy it. It is new, but IMHO it is more like a Swiss Watch or precision machine than most other ZT's... I guess I felt that way about my 0452 and 0450 when they were new, but they seem clunky compared to a 0055.

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    • crufflers
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jul 2011
      • 12722

      Originally posted by sgt1372
      Well, if I'm not attracted to the appearance of the knife, it really doesn't matter how it functions. Of course, function matters too but it's secondary to looks for me. So, if I can't stand how a knife looks, I'll just never buy it. Gotta set limits somewhere.
      True that. That's why I got rid of all my Onions hahah. I don't count the Tanto Blurs since they are not fat recurves. I might still have a VaporII or III somewhere but I dunno where it got to.

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      • KaLiFORNIA
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 1189

        That's a pretty Kershaw. Similar blade to my design.

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        • crufflers
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2011
          • 12722

          Originally posted by sgt1372
          They just cut the top off of the 0350 blade following the grind line to the tip which makes it look more conventional.
          Yeah I had the 0350 and I liked the Speed Safe action on that one. The shape, though, was not even good for breaking tape really. No point. Something wharnie or like a Bareknuckle is more useful. That 0456 shape is great.

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          • crufflers
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2011
            • 12722

            Originally posted by sgt1372
            If you like BIG trench styled fixed blade weapons, the Knife Center has a pretty great deal on it's Cold Steel Chaos Tanto, Kukri and Stiletto Tactical Fixed Blade Knife Bundle Set - 80NT, 80NTK, 80NTST - for just $99.95 w/free shipping. The they 7.5-12 inch blades and come w/Secure-Ex sheaths too.

            If you're interested, you can find it here.


            Yeah, I'd rather have an Onion recurve than one of those hahah. I wouldn't mind having some knuckles, but they are a no no here IIRC. Not even sure if we are supposed to have SAP gloves.

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            • gorn5150
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1453

              Originally posted by sgt1372
              I'm certain that SAP gloves are illegal in CA (everything else is), just not sure which Penal Code section would apply because they are not specifically mentioned as a prohibited weapon in the penal code

              Metal (or brass) knuckles are prohibited under PC 12020 and 21810 which would apply to the knuckled handguards on the trench knives. Lead shot filled SAP gloves would fall under these sections as well and, if sand filled, would probably fall under PC 12020.1 instead.
              Sap gloves are illegal. They fell under 12020 PC but the code numbers have changed since I retired and I don't care enough to learn the new section numbering.

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              • crufflers
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2011
                • 12722

                Originally posted by sgt1372
                I'm certain that SAP gloves are illegal in CA (everything else is)
                Yup the ones I have seen are powdered lead filled over the knuckles, 16 ounces per pair. Of course they are an illegal weapon here. Mostly good because two thick leather layers and flexible lead protect your knuckles if you hit them on something stupid. A real sap you can whip with a hard insert is probably better for whatever people use saps for.

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                • crufflers
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 12722

                  Originally posted by sgt1372
                  The only other thing you that can carry that is less lethal than a gun but does not raise legal issues is a taser and/or pepper spay, both of which may not be as effective as a secondary weapon in order to deal w/a threat as a sap, baton or knife.
                  Those personal tasers are interesting, but worthless if you forget to maintain it and the batteries go dead inside your car. Stun guns seem good and don't go dead real fast at all. The new ones are more powerful and super light compared to the older ones, battery tech and modern designs have come a long way. The pepper blasters that used a small gun powder charge were way cool but of course illegal here.

                  Lots of single knucks on the market, custom and production as "botttle openers" that look neat, but that'd be silly to have one here IMHO.

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                  • crufflers
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 12722

                    Originally posted by sgt1372
                    I've got a civilian C2 Taser (now called the Bolt) that I bought years ago for personal use. I also have some very large cans of pepper spay that I use to carry on-duty. Still effective after all these years. Never used either of them. Always keep an extra battery around for the C2 and sometimes carry it in a Sticky Holster that they make for it. Seldom ever carry the C2.

                    Both can fail at the worst times but, if you have them and use them in lieu of your gun and they fail, at least you can say that you tried to use less lethal levels of force before you shot but the same argument wouldn't work w/those metal knuckle bottle openers.

                    LOL!
                    Cheapest I ever saw those batteries was $50... but you have to buy them.

                    Ammo is cheap and you get more than one shot.

                    ON TOPIC... Bought three Leeks today! Yeah I know I am an Onion hater, but these are all the good (speedsafe, stretched out wharnie shape) and none of the bad (fat recurve with no tip).

                    I'll probably keep the composite one and give the OD ones as gifts.

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                    • crufflers
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 12722





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                      • readysetgo
                        CGSSA Coordinator
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 8689

                        Cold Steel Warcraft Tanto 13TL



                        Nice tapered tang.

                        Stand up and be counted, or lay down and be mounted... -Mac

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                        • crufflers
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 12722

                          Here's my Kershaw Leek review. They are OK. I am not feeling the desire to keep any of the three I bought, but the BW Composite one is superior for a few reasons and the regular ones are disappointing IMHO. First of all, the Composite one is a different type of knife. Aside from the D2 cutting edge and cool blade pattern, it has zero blade play, wobble and the others do. The others are also liner locks, where the Composite Leek is a frame lock. The frame lock's lock bar is about 4x thicker making it pretty average thickness. The linerlock versions have a thin AL scales over super super thin liners. The liner lock bar on the liner locks is abnormally thin. I'll gift them. The BW would be a keeper but I don't like the design much with the manual closed position lock either.

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                          • Frank_5.0
                            Member
                            • Dec 2017
                            • 198

                            Colonel blade. Next one is a 0450 CF once the local shop gets some in.
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                            • golfish
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 10053

                              Originally posted by crufflers




                              These are nice
                              I purchased a couple Kershaw OSO knives. These are very impressive for under $12.00. Good for everyday care, don't have to worry about losing them.
                              It takes a lot of balls to play golf the way I do.
                              Happiness is a warm gun.

                              MLC, First 3

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                              • crufflers
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 12722

                                Originally posted by golfish
                                These are nice
                                I purchased a couple Kershaw OSO knives. These are very impressive for under $12.00. Good for everyday care, don't have to worry about losing them.
                                They were good deals. $42 for the composite and $24 for the regular Leeks - good discount from regular pricing, I just think Kershaw USA could do better with the OD green ones I received.

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