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  • supersonic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 5885

    AR TECH TRICKS 101!

    PREFACE: This is something I came up with about 2 months ago after losing & ruining many springs over the years. I don't claim to be the only one who has thought of this, in fact I'd be really supprised if this hasn't already been done here before. But, after doing several searches and communicating with other members & mods, I haven't found anything like this yet.
    My blood runs as BLACK with BRD as it gets.I've always marveled at the rifle's ingenious modularity & its "sub-assemblies." Some of these assemblies , however, depend on other "unrelated" parts/assemblies in order to merely stay attached to their respective working areas in the system. There is one, above all others, that I have always just wondered........."Why?" Springs launching as the buttstock is removed, simply because I forgot it was there. New springs getting caught up & twisted beyond recognition as stock is replaced. To top it off, these "headaches" are all a part of making sure the takedown pin doesn't fall out of the weapon!!!! Yes, I'm talking about the rear takedown pin/spring/detent assembly. The modification below eliminates all of the aforementioned. And, it is simplicity defined:

    PARTS & TOOLS YOU'LL NEED:
    (1)lower receiver
    (1)rear takedown pin
    Takedown spring & detent
    (1)4-40 x 1/8" set screw
    1/20" allen wrench
    4-40 tap & cutting oil
    wire cutters
    degreaser





    Step 1. With receiver held snug in a vise (pref. w/ magwell vise block), add cutting oil to the 4-40, and carefully tap the rear of the TDS tunnel until you have cut approximately 5/16" in.



    Step 2. Spray degreaser (I like GunScrubber) through tunnel to remove all residual cutting debris. I finish it off with a blast of compressed air to dry everything & get rid of any stubborn auminum particles. You should have 5 to 7 clean, even threads.


    Last edited by Kestryll; 01-23-2009, 10:20 PM.

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    supersonic
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2007
    • 5885

    PT 2

    Step 3. Cut 6-8 coils off the spring, making sure not to leave a "jagged end."


    Step 4. Generously lube pin, detent, and "modified" spring. (Pictures show
    safety detent. Pretend it's the other one. Doh!!!!!)


    Step 5. Insert pin, detent, and spring. Use a dental pick (or equiv.) to"seat"
    the spring past the threads. This effectively "locks" the spring in place.



    Step 6. Using 1/20" allen wrench, carefully thread set screw into tapped hole
    until head of screw is flush with rear extension face.
    Mod is complete!!!



    Well, there it be. Any questions/comments are encouraged. Also, if you
    have a tech "trick" up your sleeveplease don't hesitate to add
    it to this thread. If there is enough positive feedback, why not keep this
    thread going for the benefit of all the CalGuns Ar-15 builders! We'll see
    where this goes (or doesn't go) You guys have the floor now, so lemmy 'ave
    it! Peace,
    Scott
    Last edited by supersonic; 07-04-2008, 6:26 PM.

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    • #3
      technique
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2008
      • 10639

      cool...what are those things holding your bolt and carrier for???
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      • #4
        gcvt
        Orlando, Florida
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 13737

        Brilliant. Simply brilliant.
        Originally posted by Kestryll
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        • #5
          Sig226
          Member
          • Dec 2005
          • 459

          Originally posted by technique
          cool...what are those things holding your bolt and carrier for???

          +1 ???



          Very nifty if you switch stocks often, if not I don't think I'd bother. Very cool idea though!
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          • #6
            Ballistic043
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 1704

            ive been meaning to do this but i was always under the impression the threads wouldnt come out evenly unless you used a drill press and tap. i guess for such a small set screw its pretty easy to do with a hand one. i will be buying the necessary parts soon

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            • #7
              REDHORSE
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2002
              • 1554

              I've heard of this being done. Especially with the AR Pistol builds. Someday I'll build an AR Pistol and do this mod. Not too worried about it with the rifles.

              Good job explaining it.
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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57116

                Originally posted by supersonic
                This is something I came up with about 2 months ago after losing & ruining many springs over the years.
                I guess great minds think alike.
                I started doing that about 6 years ago.
                It's a good idea on any lower that will get stock changes often.
                It's not necessary on regular builds though.
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 07-04-2008, 8:57 PM.
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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57116

                  Originally posted by technique
                  cool...what are those things holding your bolt and carrier for???
                  The carrier is sitting in a MOACKS.
                  Mother Of All Carrier Key Stakers.

                  The bolt is sitting in an ejector spring compressor.
                  It's used to remove and install the ejector.

                  Really, he's just showing off his new tools...
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                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    supersonic
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2007
                    • 5885

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    The carrier is sitting in a MOACKS.
                    Mother Of All Carrier Key Stakers.

                    The bolt is sitting in an ejector spring compressor.
                    It's used to remove and install the ejector.

                    Really, he's just showing off his new tools...
                    No, they're not new. Yes, I am shamelessly showing them off. Ned Christiansen is one of the AR-15 Gods.

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                    • #11
                      hitman13
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 3793

                      cool trick man.

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57116

                        Originally posted by supersonic
                        No, they're not new. Yes, I am shamelessly showing them off.
                        Well, they may not be new, but they sure are not used either.
                        You ought to see what MINE look like...
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #13
                          wikidklown
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1839

                          Kool trick, thanks for sharing, will definitely do it to my lower.
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                          • #14
                            blackberg
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 3056

                            great idea, but part of the fun of building a lower is to see how far you launch the spring
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                            • #15
                              bohoki
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 20815

                              i guess i'm the only person to say this is not a good modification

                              ive never had my spring launch i guess because i am careful or lucky

                              the gun is pretty much designed to be able to be taken apart with a flathead screwdriver

                              now i am going to need to have a little allen wrench

                              no thanks

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