AK Feeding Problem

[tujungatoes]

.In the later pics it definetly looks to me like your mag is way low. But you already said there is (almost)no front back slop. So that makes me think what they did was either set the front trunnion too far back, or the triggerguard too far forward. Then ground the mag catch to get it to lock. You might need to open up the back of the magwell and then add some metal to the mag catch. Or possibly re position the trunnion or TG(hopefully not). Let's see some pics of the mag catch and how it locks up with a magazine in the rifle.

[hoozaru]

Just got back from OP's place, the problems(plural) are much bigger than we thought.

Three things might be causing the FTF problem:
1. right rail is not level
2. safety selector plate s not properly trimmed
3. mag stabilizer was half a** trimmed

It looks (to my eyes) that the receiver is slightly bent where front trunnion and the rails meet. And this gun has even bigger problems. I am uploading the pix now.

[Sky_DiveR]

Think they use the same Monkeys?

[tujungatoes]

^does century produce the receivers for I.O.?

[hoozaru]

Right side rail



with a 17/64 drill bit




mag stabilizer




safety selector plate

[hoozaru]

then I saw this



on the other side too

[hoozaru]

I've never seen any barrel pin/pin hole like that, do you guys think it's even safe?

[bigbob76]

So I guess basically they are selling expensive parts kits?

[hoozaru]

OP said he bought this IO CASAR from West Covina Turners.
I remember that Matt (their manager) has an account here.
so matt if you are reading this, please do the right thing and help the OP out.
That's his hard earned money, he deserves a real and safe rifle.

All other vendors, please please please stop selling this crap to your customers, it is not right!!!

[4thSBCT]

Right side rail

The rails and over issues you mentioned arent that serious, you should see the rails on my repaired apex squashed reciever, and it still runs...

Now that I See this pic it is 100% mag sitting way too low,

[4thSBCT]

and this.....you can tell someone was grinding down the mag release...you can tell by the dimple notched out of the trigger guard. They prolly did this to get the mag to fit.
What they shouldve done was ground down that selector plate. I think this might fix your problem but then since the mag release is ground down you would need a new trigger guarg or change out the mag release with a new one... circled in green is where the material shouldve been removed circled in red is where I think they removed material to get the mag to fit.

[CSACANNONEER]

Just got back from OP's place, the problems(plural) are much bigger than we thought.

I doubt that. Although I just found this thread, before I got to your post, I already thought that there were multiple issues. The last IO I looked in had a bent center support as well as a feed issue. I'm starting to think that their receivers might be just a tad too tall. I'd need to measure one before I'm sure. But, that would end up allowing the bolt to be able to ride over the cartridges without properly stripping them from the mag.

[hoozaru]

I told OP that removing the green section might work (marked with a sharpie for him )
but that would void the warranty. IMHO, instead of trying to fix the feeding issue and all the BS rivets, he should get his money back or exchange for a working/safe rifle.

And yes center support looks bent on his gun too.

[Richard Erichsen]

The images aren't great, but I suspect it's the rail height. Rail dimensions may be off as well, visual inspection by a gunsmith or one of the more local members can confirm.

I had a friend with a set of rails that were welded in two high and he had failure to feed on one round out of 4 until he replaced his receiver. The most delicate operate on building these receivers is setting the rail height, clamping them in position and then spot welding. If it's off a bit, it can be just fine (like the carrier never actually touching the rails - too low) or it could be off by too much, or slanted which is far worse and will be nothing but trouble. Take out a set of drill bits and see which fit above the rail - are the rails equal height on both sides and completely parallel to the receiver? Most of my rails had 17/64" height, but 1/4" is also pretty common as well.

I don't think your mag is low - it looks fine to me in relation to the bullet guide in the lower part of the trunnion. The rails - that's my guess.

-R

[4thSBCT]

I think if you steal a couple of 69mach1's hairs from his head while he is sleeping, grind them up into a dust and sprinkle it on your AK it will fix the problem.