Help! Failed Detent Mod

[sreiter]

And what size carbide bit would be drilling out the tap?

obviously, a smaller size then the tap

[tankerman]

obviously, a smaller size then the tap

You obviously missed the point.

[supersonic]

haha, fail.
If you bought the kit from a guy, complain to the guy you bought it from.

+100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW- to those who are saying things like "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" / "a poor solution to a non-existent problem" seem to have missed the point completely. 1) it's not a "FIX".......it's a "MOD" 2) it is for mere convenience if one switches out stocks often 3) if you aren't the "careful type" and don't know how to properly use a tap, guess what: don't do it and 3) (for the suspicious few that seem to have taken this mod as a personal affront -???) if you see this mod as "wrong"; "unnecessary"...blah...blah...blah: just move on.

[BSlacker]

If one wants to keep the spring and detent in while changing stocks it is much easier than tapping a hole and using a set screw.
Just take a piece of stiff wire a little longer than the hole is wide and bend it in a V. Then using pliers insert it in the hole behind the spring and detent. End of issue for less than a penny. No chance of this type of issue. Comes out with a flick of the wrist and a small screwdriver.

[sreiter]

You obviously missed the point.

explain it then

[supersonic]

If one wants to keep the spring and detent in while changing stocks it is much easier than tapping a hole and using a set screw.
Just take a piece of stiff wire a little longer than the hole is wide and bend it in a V. Then using pliers insert it in the hole behind the spring and detent. End of issue for less than a penny. No chance of this type of issue. Comes out with a flick of the wrist and a small screwdriver.

That's a bit "crude," but still yet another way to do it!

The bottom line is this: if you want to do the "mod," then either you have the skill & dexterity to do it correctly.........OR: you have someone else who is more "qualified" do it for you. Either way, I think we're missing the most HORRIFYING part of the story here. In the current "climate" of the elusive lower receivers' (UN)availability (plus the horribly over-inflated price of one) makes it almost a SIN to have an ND. (NO, not a negligent discharge: a negligent dropping!!!)

[ke6guj]

explain it then

the point is that the hole that tap is in is made with a #40 drill bit, about .098". Then, if you look at the core diameter of the tap, it may be less than .050". So, you need a very small carbiDe bit, and a small ez-out as well.

Yes, there are small carbiDe bits in that size range, http://www.t-tech.com/order/category...ame=Drill+Bits .

But finding a local tap removal specialty service may be the smart way to go. A place such as http://www.brokentap.com/services.html or http://www.boltguy.com/index.html .

[supersonic]

WTF is a carbine bit?

[ke6guj]

fixed, happy?

[technique]

bro, that same sh1t happend to me, i just broke off whatever sticked out by trying to remove it. so, i just left it, and added the spring thru the front.

big +1....leave it be, you have already goofed enough. Spring and detent through the front, call it a day.

[sreiter]

the point is that the hole that tap is in is made with a #40 drill bit, about .098". Then, if you look at the core diameter of the tap, it may be less than .050". So, you need a very small carbiDe bit, and a small ez-out as well.

Yes, there are small carbiDe bits in that size range, http://www.t-tech.com/order/category...ame=Drill+Bits .

But finding a local tap removal specialty service may be the smart way to go. A place such as http://www.brokentap.com/services.html or http://www.boltguy.com/index.html .

So basically, you were just being a dick. My solution is valid. Thanks for that.

[ke6guj]

So basically, you were just being a dick.

Whoa?!?! I was being a dick

It wasn't me that said you missed the point. So, when you asked to explain it, I did.

[goober]

yeah ease up sreiter... ke6guj was trying to help.
and btw i think the point was that the tap is too small for the ez-out method to work. which is pretty much true.
the OP has a hss or harder tap that is quite small, stuck in soft metal (aluminum).
it would be VERY difficult to drill a hole into the tap w/o wandering into the surrounding material, and then even if you succeeded you'd have to use a very fine ez-out, if they even exist (i dunno).
a guy that botched the tapping job in the first place is not likely to be able to pull such an operation off.

[randy]

Heat is your friend if you heat the reciever it will expand faster than the broken tap. Heat it then pound it out.

I have to say I've never heard of this mod but I don't own change stocks.

[sreiter]

Whoa?!?! I was being a dick

It wasn't me that said you missed the point. So, when you asked to explain it, I did.

Sorry brother, i sincerely apologize. It was late, and it was after driving 800 miles. I just assumed you were the OP who said "and what size" would you need. HE was the dick.