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  • #31
    Technical Ted
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 12169

    Originally posted by ar15barrels
    New shooters are commonly mislead to believe that tapping the reciever for a setscrew is somehow a good idea.
    "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
    Originally posted by ChrisTKHarris
    That is one of the most idiotic statements I've heard. You are a retard.

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    • #32
      drexotic
      Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 252

      I'm pretty new to building OLL's but I've broken off a fair number of screws/bolts/taps in tight places . . .

      I'd start with the lower in a vice and try tapping it (the tap) in a counter-clockwise direction with a fine punch. If that didn't work I'd carefully grind the top flat or flat with the surface of the receiver using a dremel or similar small grinder (I have access to diamond dental bits but similar bits are available at your local hardware store) then grind out or grind a hole that would accept a small easy out.

      Best of luck!
      Last edited by drexotic; 03-25-2009, 2:22 PM. Reason: OCD
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      • #33
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57143

        Originally posted by tankerman
        Should be fine as long as the tap doesn't gouge out any aluminum and end up futher down the hole.
        Even if it does, there's a 1/4" diameter hole at the end of the detent hole.
        Drive the broken pieces of tap right out the bottom of the detent hole and into the takedown pin hole.
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        • #34
          tankerman
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2006
          • 24240

          Originally posted by ar15barrels
          Even if it does, there's a 1/4" diameter hole at the end of the detent hole.
          Drive the broken pieces of tap right out the bottom of the detent hole and into the takedown pin hole.
          Yep, and you probably wouldn't even need to drive it all the way through, once you bang on it a bit, the tap will likely fall out out the same way in went in after the cut threads are destroyed.

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          • #35
            Tweak338
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 4076

            In my opinion.
            If you are going to do this mod.
            Get a nice new tap.
            The one in the kit is probably el cheapo

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            • #36
              tankerman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Mar 2006
              • 24240

              Originally posted by Tweak338
              In my opinion.
              If you are going to do this mod.
              Get a nice new tap.
              The one in the kit is probably el cheapo
              Not sure why he needs the mod? But the most important thing is to know how to use a tap.

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              • #37
                G17GUY
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2006
                • 2343

                Sucks, but funny.
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                • #38
                  xrMike
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 7841

                  rear takedown detent mod: The unecessary solution to a non-existent problem.

                  No disrespect rukus, and best of luck fixing this.

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                  • #39
                    Mstrty
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2443

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    haha, fail.
                    If you bought the kit from a guy, complain to the guy you bought it from.
                    Im really surprised that this guy requests information from fellow gunners and a member with 14k+posts laughs at this guy for his first 3 posts in this thread

                    just my 2cents

                    I have 100% success welding a small nut to the top of the tap through the hole in the nut. Many other ideas posted here may or may not work. Good luck.
                    Last edited by Mstrty; 03-25-2009, 4:02 PM.
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                    • #40
                      rkt88edmo
                      Reptile&Samurai Moderator
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 10062

                      On vises, I have a ruger MkII upper that is a very tight fit on the lower. I decided to take it down completely to set up the overtravel screw on the trigger (KMK678GC model). I didn't feel like going downstairs and out to the garage for getting a mallet and figured I would muscle it off.

                      I did, and when it popped off the rear of the frame that cups the upper sliced right through the fleshy base of my thumb, a good half centimeter deep - off to the ER for stitches I went.

                      Now I use vises when appropriate and walk to the garage
                      If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
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                      • #41
                        Jicko
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 8774

                        Lesson learnt - don't try to fix something that is not broken....
                        - LL
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                        • #42
                          bill104
                          Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 382

                          Just one more thing you might try, get a pair of small Pilers Like a jeweler uses, or Micro Pilers sold in kits at sears, then heat up the area with a hot air gun, (no Flame) once the metal is hot enough you should be able to walk it back out with little proplem, just take your time, maybe even take a few minutes to set back and pounder what u are doing it will come out.

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                          • #43
                            sreiter
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1664

                            carbide bit drill and a easy out - imo
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                            • #44
                              tankerman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 24240

                              Originally posted by sreiter
                              carbide bit drill and a easy out - imo
                              And what size carbide bit would be drilling out the tap?

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                              • #45
                                Mazilla
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 479

                                could he just leave it in and install the detent/spring from the front? I've only built 1 so far so forgive the lack of recollection, and since nobody mentioned it I asume it's not possible......

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