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  • geoint
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2014
    • 4385

    80% Question

    Hey guys so I was at my LGS and I ordered the Juggernaut Ultimate Jig. I received it today and am now wondering if the top plate/trigger pocket template is too small of a platform for my router? For you guys who have experience completing 80%'s, what do you think? Heres the jig.

    Craft premium AR-10/AR-15 lowers with our Ultimate Jig. Comes with alignment tool, steel bushings, depth gauge, and optional tooling. Made in the USA.


    The 80% Easy Jig has the Router Base that looks a lot easier to keep my router flat on.

    Shop through our selection of replacement parts for the Easy Jig® Gen 2 right here! 80 Percent Arms offers a range of parts to fix problems on your router jig.


    Am I making a bigger deal about this than necessary?
    Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

    I Hate California.
  • #2
    johnnycharro
    Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 89

    I purchased the juggernaut jig also. Drilled out the holes but having an issue with the 5/16 milling bit. Couldn't find a 5/16 collet for my router. Have one on order and waiting for it now.

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    • #3
      pklin1297
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2006
      • 3287

      You could make it work if you are careful not to tilt your router by going too far to one side or another, or the edges. The huge top plate by 80% Arms is a definitely plus in the routing operation by keeping the router level. I have used it many times now and it is a great jig.

      IMO, return the Juggernaut and get the 80% jig instead. I'm within driving distance to 80% Arms and they're a great bunch of guys and take care of their customers.
      NRA Member, CAPRC Member

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      • #4
        geoint
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2014
        • 4385

        Thats kind of what Im thinking. Im gonna return it. Thanks for the help, gents.


        I shoulda known better but I have no impulse control with 80% stuff lately.
        Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

        I Hate California.

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        • #5
          Jimbo12
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2016
          • 16

          Noted for my potential future build. Thanks!

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          • #6
            geoint
            Veteran Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 4385

            Sure thing, Jimbo!

            So I did return the Juggernaut and got the 80% Easy Jig instead. Haven't used it yet since I needed to order a few things that I didn't already have and that I couldnt find at home depot like cutting fluid and the rubber vice jaws with magnets to stick to my vice.

            Once those are here, I am going to start spending a lot of time in the garage again lol
            Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

            I Hate California.

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            • #7
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57047

              Originally posted by geoint
              Hey guys so I was at my LGS and I ordered the Juggernaut Ultimate Jig. I received it today and am now wondering if the top plate/trigger pocket template is too small of a platform for my router? For you guys who have experience completing 80%'s, what do you think? Heres the jig.

              http://www.jtactical.com/AR-10AR-15-...-Jig_p_82.html
              That's a milling jig, not a routing jig.
              Randall Rausch

              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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              • #8
                geoint
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2014
                • 4385

                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                That's a milling jig, not a routing jig.
                Right there in the description in the link.

                The only thing necessary to get your project going is a drill press or a hand drill and router; everything else provided in your Ultimate Jig Kit.

                Craft premium AR-10/AR-15 lowers with our Ultimate Jig. Comes with alignment tool, steel bushings, depth gauge, and optional tooling. Made in the USA.
                Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

                I Hate California.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57047

                  Originally posted by geoint
                  Right there in the description in the link.

                  The only thing necessary to get your project going is a drill press or a hand drill and router; everything else provided in your Ultimate Jig Kit.

                  http://www.jtactical.com/AR-10AR-15-...-Jig_p_82.html
                  It would not be the first time the marketing people mis-advertised their products.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                  Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                  • #10
                    Jimbo12
                    Junior Member
                    • Jun 2016
                    • 16

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    It would not be the first time the marketing people mis-advertised their products.
                    Reminds me of the new 2017 Ford Raptor - "Military grade aluminum." So you're saying you guys bid it out and went with the cheapest crap you could buy that barely qualifies as decent material.

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                    • #11
                      NukleusX
                      Member
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 434

                      Originally posted by pklin1297

                      IMO, return the Juggernaut and get the 80% jig instead. I'm within driving distance to 80% Arms and they're a great bunch of guys and take care of their customers.

                      Didn't know they actually had a storefront; when I saw their location I thought it would just be a warehouse/shipping location. May have to stop by, as a satisfied customer!

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                      • #12
                        Lingwendil
                        Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 213

                        +1

                        return it and get the 80% arms easy jig, take your time, use plenty of cutting oil, and you will have great results.

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                        • #13
                          geoint
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2014
                          • 4385

                          Finally had some time to start working on my first receiver tonight only to be frustrated by inferior tools. My dewalt 18v drill maxes out at 1500 rpm and the video clearly says to set my drill to 2500 rpm. Totally my fault for not catching it before. Am gonna have to upgrade my drill before I can continue as I only got to the third hole before my second battery died on me.

                          Will update when I get one finished
                          Unless we keep the barbarian virtues, gaining the civilized ones will be of little avail. Oversentimentality, oversoftness, washiness, and mushiness are the great dangers of this age and of this people." Teddy Roosevelt

                          I Hate California.

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                          • #14
                            NukleusX
                            Member
                            • Jul 2016
                            • 434

                            Corded drill ftw.

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                            • #15
                              Aloha_Snackbar
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 4

                              Originally posted by Jimbo12
                              Reminds me of the new 2017 Ford Raptor - "Military grade aluminum." So you're saying you guys bid it out and went with the cheapest crap you could buy that barely qualifies as decent material.
                              Military grade aluminum is nothing more that empty beer cans consumed by soldiers.

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