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  • Jayhawks1911
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2014
    • 10

    Please advise

    So i'm totally confused. I'm from Kansas but my family's from cali. Interested in job seeking in Cali but what precludes me is the gun laws of the Republic of California.

    Just recently I was watching some youtube videos about the Bay Area Rifle Championships (BARC). How in the heck do you guys have rifles like those there? I don't get it . I also saw this girl named Jessica Hook shooting at the BARC. She clearly has a non California compliant custom AR by Citizen Arms. Looking at the AR it appears to not have a bullet mag release (or whatever you guys call it), has no foregrip or flash hider but it does have pistol grip and collapsible/adjustable stock with the surefire 60 round mag.

    I thought I had a handle on the gun laws in Cali. Please clarify.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Jayhawks1911; 10-05-2014, 8:02 PM.
  • #2
    Subotai
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jun 2010
    • 11289

    The laws now are bad, but the next Democrat to become guvnah will sign ALL gun control bills. In 5-10 years, you'll wish you never came here.
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    • #3
      rkt88edmo
      Reptile&Samurai Moderator
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Dec 2002
      • 10062

      IF you had them prior to 2000 and registered them you can run them as normal. There are also some competition exemptions you can get. But I am guessing it was the former she was using.
      If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
      Use the goog to search calguns

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      • #4
        Jayhawks1911
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2014
        • 10

        Well after posting the topic under the Politics section to no avail, I was hopping some avid competitor from California would shine some light on it.

        I don't believe one of the competitors had her rifle prior to 2000, as from my research, jessica hook only began competing about 2-3 years ago.

        Here is a few links of the 2013 Bay Area Rifle Competition videos I was watching:

        Jessica Hook at the BARC: http://youtu.be/uU1g3cCY6O8

        Jojo, 1st overall winner at the BARC: http://youtu.be/nJ7y4hL0HL0

        Keith Garcia of Hornady: http://youtu.be/5_TFyU0wNWI

        Notice these guys running the Surefire 60 round mags or, in Jojo's case, something else looking like a elongated, G.I. width mag. So how...?
        Last edited by Jayhawks1911; 10-04-2014, 2:54 PM.

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        • #5
          rkt88edmo
          Reptile&Samurai Moderator
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2002
          • 10062

          Just because she didn't doesn't mean it isn't a lower that belongs to someone else that is registered. But I really don't know, it is all just speculation. Magazines are all over the place, a 60rd surefire mag is definitely a bit of an oddity, legal or not, I don't know.
          If it was a snake, it would have bit me.
          Use the goog to search calguns

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          • #6
            steelciocc
            Member
            • May 2012
            • 347

            Let it go. Or, MYOB.

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            • #7
              Sofatactical
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 603

              I have an idea MYOFB and STFU, weirdo. Stalker much?
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              • #8
                joelogic
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2008
                • 6593

                Brady troll is obvious. If you stood for 2A rights you would not question someone excerising them.
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                • #9
                  Jayhawks1911
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2014
                  • 10

                  I think you guys got the wrong impression. I'm just simply trying to get in on the competition game in Cali and am curious how I can. Someone earlier in this forum said californians are rude and have no "sense of community." Clearly i agree. Except for the moderator and frankm of course; thank you for being understanding. Get your mind outta the gutter, stalker boy.
                  Last edited by Jayhawks1911; 10-05-2014, 12:55 PM.

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                  • #10
                    joelogic
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2008
                    • 6593

                    200,000 members and 26,000 active and we don't have a sense of community?

                    Interesting.

                    If you were interested in doing something you ask how do I do it.

                    If you are traveling here you don't have many options. 1 is to borrow gear while here. This is why we don't have national matches in CA.
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                    • #11
                      freethemouse
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 230

                      Originally posted by Jayhawks1911
                      I think you guys got the wrong impression. I'm just simply trying to get in on the competition game in Cali and am curious how I can. Someone earlier in this forum said californians are rude and have no "sense of community." Clearly i agree. Except for the moderator and frankm of course; thank you for being understanding. Get your mind outta the gutter, stalker boy.
                      I may not be answering your question, but in addition to the grandfathering, note that prior to 1/1/2014, Californians were able to purchase magazine parts through rebuild kits. The statute governing magazine capacity limits prohibits manufacture, importation, sale, transfer, etc., of standard capacity magazines, but does not prohibit their use. Also, I VAGUELY remember some exceptions for competitions (such as lending magazines to another competitor for his/her use, but don't hold me to this!).

                      I'll let you draw your own conclusions from this, but you can see that it's not impossible to own standard capacity magazines. When I see people with them, I don't think about it much and just assume they acquired them in compliance with the law.

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                      • #12
                        rmatt
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 1057

                        The first rule of shooting competitions(fight club) in CA is you don't talk about.......
                        Competition is where you find out you're slow, can't see well, are not accurate, have poor gun handling, can't visualize, have equipment that doesn't work and either accept it OR DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
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                        • #13
                          esskay
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2304

                          Just google Keith Garcia and Hornady, you'll find this, which describes his day job:
                          I believe Hornady products have helped me reach a new level in my shooting. The quality and consistency of Hornady ammo is unparalleled!


                          JV's been shooting in CA forever, so even if he weren't in the business he'd have lots of registered stuff.

                          Citizen Arms is not based in CA, so that photo probably wasn't taken here.

                          Comply with all laws, go featureless and you won't have to use a bullet button.
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                          • #14
                            FromTheGrave
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 646

                            Originally posted by freethemouse
                            I may not be answering your question, but in addition to the grandfathering, note that prior to 1/1/2014, Californians were able to purchase magazine parts through rebuild kits. The statute governing magazine capacity limits prohibits manufacture, importation, sale, transfer, etc., of standard capacity magazines, but does not prohibit their use. Also, I VAGUELY remember some exceptions for competitions (such as lending magazines to another competitor for his/her use, but don't hold me to this!).

                            I'll let you draw your own conclusions from this, but you can see that it's not impossible to own standard capacity magazines. When I see people with them, I don't think about it much and just assume they acquired them in compliance with the law.
                            Even if, you can't use them unless you're running featureless. Preban or not.

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                            • #15
                              freethemouse
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 230

                              Originally posted by FromTheGrave
                              Even if, you can't use them unless you're running featureless. Preban or not.

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