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[TeamAllen]

I have heard they allow 22LR for those that need it. I don't think the test will count for your G or DG. Not 100% sure though. Anyone else?

[rodralig]

Wow! Neat recap with a video. One happy kid - my first was a 22 Flobert rifle - long time ago in NYC even rode the city bus with it - not today.

Thank you Sir...!!!




UPDATE: .22LR is not allowed as per this link: https://www.frontsight.com/firearms-...g/handguns.asp

I have heard they allow 22LR for those that need it. I don't think the test will count for your G or DG. Not 100% sure though. Anyone else?

I am not sure whether it's allowed or not. However, you'd be missing out a lot with .22LR...

1. Dry practice drills - you'd just ruin the gun
2. Gun handling/manipulations and malfunctions

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[acegunnr]

Thank you Sir...!!!


UPDATE: .22LR is not allowed as per this link: https://www.frontsight.com/firearms-...g/handguns.asp


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That is just for pocket guns. I have seen .22 used in class with larger guns. Just can't set up for a type 3 or qualify for a shiny sticker.

[rodralig]

That is just for pocket guns. I have seen .22 used in class with larger guns. Just can't set up for a type 3 or qualify for a shiny sticker.

But wouldn't the dry practice drills ruin the gun, ie., dry fire is not recommended for rimfires?


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[acegunnr]

But wouldn't the dry practice drills ruin the gun, ie., dry fire is not recommended for rimfires?

It depends on the gun:

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2011/7/8/will-dry-firing-damage-rimfire-guns/

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[TeamAllen]

I have seen rounds on the ground before and asked the instructor about it, because I thought they weren't allowed. That's when he told me it was possible. I bought a conversion kit for a Glock just so my daughter might try it.
Advantage Arms machine a small relief at the top of the chamber to help eliminate this problem

http://advantagearms.hostasaurus.com/mm5/AdvantageRing.jpg

I'm sure it's not recommended for the firearm, but I would think the firing pin is taking the brunt of damage. How expensive could that be to replace?

[hermosabeach]

Classes around Easter fill up fast. My guess is many holidays fill up

With VrBO and other rental options you have more choices but I had a difficult time finding rooms on one trip as I waited too long to book.

The memberships should be about $100 and are a no brainer. Lots of good training for the $50 annual fee when you train.

[rodralig]

It depends on the gun:

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2011/7/8/will-dry-firing-damage-rimfire-guns/

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Interesting.

Advantage Arms machine a small relief at the top of the chamber to help eliminate this problem

http://advantagearms.hostasaurus.com/mm5/AdvantageRing.jpg

I'm sure it's not recommended for the firearm, but I would think the firing pin is taking the brunt of damage. How expensive could that be to replace?

I have the same kit. Let me reach out to AA and check with them. If it is possible, then I can have my 11-year old take the 4DDHG much earlier than I anticipated (he's a Diamond member, btw).


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[damon1272]

[rodralig]

That sounds good... Would appreciate if you could provide an after action report. I might be able to get my kid to a 4DDHG (or a 2DDHG, considering it might be too long for him) during the winter break from the 20th of Dec until the 12th of Jan. Hoping that there are no special circumstances at work that I can't take the week off...

Absolutely agree with you that there is a high chance he may develop bad habits due to recoil, hence, the same intent - stick with the .22LR. At the meantime, am drilling him with the manipulations at home (safety, draw, holster, reload).

And as mentioned above, I will reach out to Advantage Arms and ask them if their kit would allow dry fire. Still wary about that...

Cheers,

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[Cpugh3]

My wife used a 22 a couple of times, instructors thought it was great, just did dry practice with a dead trigger, yes no shiny sticker.

[LV_G22]

A 10-12 year old should be able to handle and fire a 9mm Glock without any difficulty. My two boys trained at Frontsight with Glock 19's when they were that age.

They just need to be taught proper TECHNIQUE. That takes care of all of your gun handling issues, including recoil control.

[mej16489]

A 10-12 year old should be able to handle and fire a 9mm Glock without any difficulty. My two boys trained at Frontsight with Glock 19's when they were that age.

They just need to be taught proper TECHNIQUE. That takes care of all of your gun handling issues, including recoil control.

I agree 100% My grandson could pass the test cold with any compact through full-size 9mm I handed him at age 12. I started him shooting with a 9mm somewhere in his 11th year when he expressed an interest in handguns.

Now at almost 16, I'm pretty sure he could DG the Advanced Handgun test without too much effort. I'm a horrible grandfather, I still haven't been able to get him out to Front Sight...

Recently at an informal club practical shooting match he placed 1st above everyone but the most seasoned shooters...something like 4th overall of 18-20 shooters.

[JohnP]

[Citizen_B]

Thanks for report. The change doesn’t surprise me.