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[TeamAllen]

There are a few trainings in the San Diego area through Tactical Hyve.
I would like to do the Precision Rifle Course, but I have hard time parting with the $650. I'm not sure if it would teach me enough for the $?

https://tacticalhyve.corsizio.com/c/5e03c36301bcfb1a4a40bbce?__s=1vbup42aair3iadmkv5t

https://tacticalhyve.com/pr1-july-25-26?__s=1vbup42aair3iadmkv5t

https://tacticalhyve.corsizio.com/c/5e0818da798cd97a901194b3?__s=1vbup42aair3iadmkv5t

[damon1272]

[UPSMike]

Question

Light triggers, I just don't get it.....

I've taken over 200 classes at Frontsight. My current favorites are Handgun Combat Master and ATHG

I use stock Glocks. Stock triggers. Glock (steel) sights. Wouldn't want a light trigger if you paid me.

Everyone is looking for an equipment fix to a training problem.

Just my 2 cents....

How were you able to get in 200 classes?

[LV_G22]

How were you able to get in 200 classes?

First Family Membership: March 2002
Private Membership : October 2012
Home Town: Las Vegas, NV
Great Wife....

[DMURRICA]

Hey calgun/fs members, i am looking into finally going to fs for the first time since I've had my membership(commander). I see alot of you running strikerfire pistols(glocks/xds), i have either my m9 or a brick(hipoint c9). Do any of you forsee problems running an m9? I've never had any formal training. I am going to have to start at 2day classes due to work schedule. I'm headed over to fs faq page for info/ knowledge.

[damon1272]

They won’t be opening till September at the earliest. The course works best for striker fired with respect to malfunction drills and such. The instructor will work with you to learn your pistol. A new member just went with his M9 and had some struggles but also learned about the gun. Best to bring the high point in case you need a back up. Honestly you will get way more out of the four day if you can swing it. Otherwise you stop just as you are getting to the good stuff. Either way make sure you go. You will want to get a lula loader and a dump bag to make the class more enjoyable. Short of that they have great info on the facts page. Plenty of info here on the first page too.

[DMURRICA]

I wonder why? It always seemed like a no brainer for me to get my m9, used by US military for how long? Plus all the LE aswell.

[damon1272]

Nothing wrong with the gun. Just that single actions and striker fired are easier to run. Plus if you have a decoder model you will have to decode each time. Reasoning being you need to learn the da/so trigger if that is what you have and that is how you would carry it.

[Jedi54]

nothing wrong with the beretta m9, see a lot of 92F's out there
you'll get a lot of practice running that decocker but once you get used to that trigger you should be good.
also, some have some sharp edges that become very noticeable after 2 or 4 days.

either way, happy to hear you're going and enjoy the training!

[DMURRICA]

Thanks you both for your insight

[beanz2]

If you were to advise a shotgun newbie on what gun is best to use for FS classes, what gun would you recommend?

My first firearm ever was a shotgun, a pistol gripped Mossberg 590, and the others are AK shotguns, purely bought as an AK collector. Never shot them much as I had always preferred shooting handguns and rifles. I hear the pistol grip shotgun is not an ideal gun to use for FS? Please teach me the nuances of Front Sight shotgun classes.


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[TeamAllen]

It was the most fun class I have ever taken and am looking forward to the next skill builder. I am no expert. I have only taken one 4 day class. The predominant choice was 12GA pumps. I am a fan of semi-auto.

I was worried about 4 sustained days of 12GA and had heard from some of my friends that many of the students couldn't physically finish the class because of the recoil. I chose a 20GA semi-auto and had no issues. In fact the instructor made an example out of my pattern of how good the grouping/pattern was. I was surprised. Many guns broke down in the class. It is hard on the equipment and some guys did go home early.

The biggest help IMO was using an RMO as the optic. It was fantastic. I was glad I made that choice. One guys optic went flying off and a few less expensive ones were having trouble holding zero.

For the record, I have 3 12GA semi's Mossberg 930SPX, Beretta 1301 & Benelli M4. I chose what I thought was the best firearm for the circumstances and it worked for me. Mossberg SA-20 Tactical. I don't think you can get them anymore? I think I will choose the 930 for the 2 day skill builder class.

Have fun and enjoy the class. If you do choose a semi-auto make sure you try the ammo you are going to bring before the range. Low vs. high brass can be an issue.

[beanz2]

Good idea on using a 20 ga shotgun.

Would you be able to mitigate the 12 ga recoil with those mini shells? You’d be able to fit more rounds into the magazine also, right? Would mini shells interfere with all the FS routines such as reloading, changing your load, etc?

Do they even make slugs for the mini shells? How about belt carriers for those?

Sorry for the newbie questions... the world of shotguns is an unfamiliar territory for me, like archery lol


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[VolvoWrench]

I took the 4 day class and used a rented Benelli M4.
The recoil was a pain. I'd highly recommend a shoulder pad.
I'd also highly recommend a semi-auto. In days 3 and 4 you are doing a lot of rapid firing. And, get real familiar with doing a "select (shell)" drop in. I forget what they call it but, you have to be able to load in a select round, usually a slug, from a full battery condition.

[Vinnie Boombatz]

Good idea on using a 20 ga shotgun.

Would you be able to mitigate the 12 ga recoil with those mini shells? You’d be able to fit more rounds into the magazine also, right? Would mini shells interfere with all the FS routines such as reloading, changing your load, etc?

Do they even make slugs for the mini shells? How about belt carriers for those?

Sorry for the newbie questions... the world of shotguns is an unfamiliar territory for me, like archery lol


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I think mini shells would be a bad idea. They seem more like a novelty than something you'd actually want to use if your life counted on it, so I wouldn't even consider using them for training and I've seen videos that show they aren't that reliable and seemed to jam to often for me to trust them. Plus you need an adapter, and if you lose or damage the rubber adapter you're S.O.L. Instead of trying to reinvent the wheel with mini shells, etc. I think it be much better to use who you have and regular shells and spend money on dialing in your shotgun and getting a nice recoil pad.

I'm signed up for the 4-day tactical shotgun class in October and will be taking my 12g Mossberg 590A1. I really prefer the aesthetic of the original stock, but because the ghost ring sights are mounted on the rail it make it difficult to get a good cheek weld while also being able to sight the gun properly. The Magpul stock makes it look very bro/douchey tactical, but it's a night and day difference regarding comfort and being able to sight the shotgun. I then ditched the stock Magpul recoil pad, and installed a Limbsaver recoil pad. Limbsaver doesn't make a recoil pad for the Mossberg Magpul stock, but they do make one for the Remington Magpul stock and an adapter that will allow you to mount is on the Mossberg Magpul stock. Got to test it out this weekend up at a friends ranch and it's a VERY comfortable shotgun to shoot, and I dont care if my buddies made fun of the recoil pad and call it a "pu$$y pad". After a 4-day course I'm sure I'll appreciate it even more.

I'm very excited to use this shotgun for the course. Only downsides are since it's a 590A1 it has a 20", thicker-walled barrel and 8+1 capacity, so it's not a light shotgun. The weight may pose a problem over a 4-day course, but I have a Blue Force Gear Vickers padded sling that is very comfortable. Initially tried a couple Magpul slings but prefer the Blue Force Gear for comfort. I attach one end though the channel in the stock itself (tried the swivel mount on the stock and didn't like it always spinning around). Feeding the sling through the channel also means less hardware and carries really well, only downside is not as easy to disconnect like a QD sling swivel. On the front of the shotgun I have a GG&G mount that also has a small rail to mount a light. This has been the best sling/light mount I've tried so far. It's low profile, the light can be removed in a couple seconds.