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  • XDJYo
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2012
    • 6145

    Originally posted by DieselPusher
    Good basic knowledge, wife agreed that taking the Glock course first made the 1911 course easier. Had she taken the 1911 Armorer course first she would of been frustrated and gave up. Learning the names for the parts made it easier to understand what was being discussed and how parts worked together.

    Wife likes puzzles, so she enjoyed the class.

    I liked that there were about 7 or 8 instructors walking around answering questions during disassembly and assembly and checking that we did it right the first time.

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    • Tripper
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2011
      • 7628

      Originally posted by XDJYo
      Let us know how the armorer's classes are. The 1911 class sounds really intriguing. My wife may want to do the Glock one too.



      Happy shooting and be safe.

      I took them either last year or year before, glock was easy, in my opinion could have been done in half a day at most, XD was a good too, maybe the other half day, 1911 a bit more complex, was good at a day, the ar we didn't finish, ppl still had incomplete ARs on the table at end of day
      The class is tailored along the slowest person in class, along with answering tons of questions along the way, which is what makes it take so long
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      • AAShooter
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2010
        • 7188

        Originally posted by Tripper
        I took them either last year or year before, glock was easy, in my opinion could have been done in half a day at most, XD was a good too, maybe the other half day, 1911 a bit more complex, was good at a day, the ar we didn't finish, ppl still had incomplete ARs on the table at end of day
        The class is tailored along the slowest person in class, along with answering tons of questions along the way, which is what makes it take so long
        If you have some knowledge of the guns, I found I could work on multiple guns and that helped in the slack time. So for example, I think I had four glocks at the glock class that I went through cleaned and lubricated.

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        • NorthBay Shooter
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2015
          • 679

          Going down on 9/8-9 for the two day advance tactical handgun. Looking forward to it. This will be the first time I fly in. I normally drive from NorCal but holiday weekend and only a two day too much trouble.

          I saw some notes from another member about this class. Is the night shoot still offered? How much time is spent on trying to prep for the DG test rather than just new skills?

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          • CaliforniaSerf
            Member
            • May 2014
            • 237

            Originally posted by NorthBay Shooter
            Going down on 9/8-9 for the two day advance tactical handgun. Looking forward to it. This will be the first time I fly in. I normally drive from NorCal but holiday weekend and only a two day too much trouble.

            I saw some notes from another member about this class. Is the night shoot still offered? How much time is spent on trying to prep for the DG test rather than just new skills?


            They still do a night shoot the first night. It's worth doing.

            There is a lot of 'introduction' to support hand shooting, one handed shooting, one handed malfunctions and the like, but the rest of the course is geared toward passing the test.
            Last edited by CaliforniaSerf; 08-14-2015, 10:45 AM.

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            • CaliforniaSerf
              Member
              • May 2014
              • 237

              Originally posted by XDJYo
              Let us know how the armorer's classes are. The 1911 class sounds really intriguing. My wife may want to do the Glock one too.

              Happy shooting and be safe.

              The armorer's courses were okay. I did the 1911 and AR15 class. They covered the basic function of the gun, some common problems, things to watch out for, how to reassemble, etc. That was all worthwhile and I'm glad I did it.

              The minuses are the instructor felt a need to bolster himself by insulting certain manufacturers saying that they don't know how the 1911 functions, they don't understand the link, etc., etc. When he himself didn't know the why certain things were happening with my gun. Whatever.

              I don't regret going. It was worth the money ;-). I've built a couple AR15s from 80%, so I understand how they go together. It was worth it to know, for example, when to replace the gas rings, and which way they go on. But, lots of details about 'what to do if *this* (whatever) isn't right' won't be covered in the class.

              Granted there are time constraints, but I don't believe that was the limiting factor.

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              • NorthBay Shooter
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 679

                CaliforniaSerf - thanks for the info. Done a lot of one handed because of IDPA but always good for more instruction. Looking forward to the night shoot as well.

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                • LCU1670
                  Veteran Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 2865

                  Be there in two weeks, have empty hand, then edged weapons and then staying for my first 4 day advanced martial arts. Hope to see you guys out there (will be hot!).
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                  • Knight1212
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2014
                    • 66

                    Wifey and I have been members for quite some time, but haven't attended any classes yet.
                    The wife is pretty sensitive to heat, what time of year would y'all suggest?
                    Was thinking maybe mid to late October.

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                    • Jedi54
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1012

                      Late October or early November is good.

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                      • Knight1212
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 66

                        Thanks Jedi

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                        • Kenm
                          Member
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 147

                          Planning on taking another 4 day handgun class with my new STI 1911 and I was told by a friend that my trigger pull at 4.5 pounds may not be allowed. Will this be allowed and if not what trigger pull is OK? Thanks
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                          • XDJYo
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 6145

                            Originally posted by Kenm
                            Planning on taking another 4 day handgun class with my new STI 1911 and I was told by a friend that my trigger pull at 4.5 pounds may not be allowed. Will this be allowed and if not what trigger pull is OK? Thanks

                            At 4.5, you should be ok. My SA was at 4.00 and passed inspection.

                            You will have a great time. Be prepared though. Some instructors are big Glock fans. There is some friendly Glock vs 1911 competition going on.

                            Happy shooting and let us know how it goes.


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                            • dad4mnc
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 706

                              Planning on taking another 4 day handgun class with my new STI 1911 and I was told by a friend that my trigger pull at 4.5 pounds may not be allowed. Will this be allowed and if not what trigger pull is OK? Thanks

                              You will be fine. They don't put a Lyman guage on it. The line instructors at weapons check basically perform a function check. I took the Skill Builder class with an XDm 5.25 in 9mm. It has a complete PRP drop in trigger kit. The fiber optic sight broke and I went to the gunsmith. He repaired it and I asked him to measure the pull. He dry fired once and asked " are you sure you want me to do that?" He did and it pulled 3.5 lbs. The only comments I got on the range from instructors was "nice trigger."
                              Yes they are a bit Glock happy in general. I'd practice manipulating the safety of you're not proficient. The instructors will ride you hard on the safety if you're not doing it right.
                              Long winded I know. The last time I took my HK Expert. I operate it "1911 style" ie cocked N locked. The line instructors were giving me a hard time for not decocking. It took the RM to explain I was OK. YMMV with line instructors.

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                              • Jedi54
                                Senior Member
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1012

                                4.5 pounds and you'll be fine.
                                similar to dad4mcn, I've taken my XD and XDM with PRP triggers and they haven't said a thing.
                                One of the RM's I had in the past was using his XD for the class and during lunch one day was talking to some new shooters about their XDs and the benefits of the PRP trigger over the stock trigger.

                                I think they just want to make sure you're not rolling in with some crazy light 2.5 lb competition trigger that you haven't practiced with and you're accidentally going to torch a round off into the ground or into your leg under timed pressure.
                                anything 4 lbs or more you should be fine.

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