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  • #16
    j1133s
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 1343

    Originally posted by sargenv

    I wish we could be more help, but the guys I know just have a load of trigger time and experience and they got that from going to matches and doing a load of dry and live fire.. That is really the only way to get better is trigger time, and analyzing what you do (via video) to see how you can get better. I SHOULD dry fire every day but I'm lazy.. I also don't expect to win..
    Trigger time/dry fire is important, but I think there's something more. For example, when I first started, I wasn't shooting single handed very well, in a class I learned to hold the gun slightly sideways. Lots of things and tips.

    Also, buy Practical Shooter, I have a new copy for $10 (in San Jose). Books also provide from instructions although not as good as hands on. For example, when faced with a stage, I divide the targets into fast/med/slow fire based on their difficulty... instead of everything too fast.
    Last edited by j1133s; 04-23-2010, 9:40 AM.

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    • #17
      sargenv
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 4620

      I've shot my fair number of different matches. 3-gun nats one year, Superstition mountain, Canadian Nationals, US Nationals, Area 2 USPSA, and the one I most often shoot is the IRC. Of all of these, the one I did the best at was the Canadian Nationals, but the one I do well at over and over again (save last year when my front sight fell out and I didn't notice it) is the IRC. It's the one match I actually train for.

      Everything else is kind of on the sidelines.. but as a shooter, I do ok almost anywhere I go. I don't win, but I usually finish where I expect to and that's good enough for me.

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      • #18
        j1133s
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 1343

        Originally posted by sargenv
        I've shot my fair number of different matches. 3-gun nats one year, Superstition mountain, Canadian Nationals, US Nationals, Area 2 USPSA, and the one I most often shoot is the IRC. Of all of these, the one I did the best at was the Canadian Nationals, but the one I do well at over and over again (save last year when my front sight fell out and I didn't notice it) is the IRC. It's the one match I actually train for.

        Everything else is kind of on the sidelines.. but as a shooter, I do ok almost anywhere I go. I don't win, but I usually finish where I expect to and that's good enough for me.
        Hi there,
        I don't mean to say you shoot to lose; in fact, I wasn't talking about you but was speaking about myself. I re-read my post and last paragraph sounded a bit arrogant instead of funny so I deleted it. If you are offended, please accept my apology.

        When I was actively shooting, I was kind of like you, shooting multiple games. I'm kind of like a jack of all trades but master of none

        Maybe I'll see you sometime at RRGC; I'm thinking about getting back into action pistol.

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        • #19
          9mmepiphany
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 8075

          if you really want a class, can find a range at a affordable rate and can line up 15 shooters...it's doable

          Bruce Gray is a USPSA GM...he used to shoot for H&K and Sig...and will travel to do local classes. Bruce was shooting back in the days before there was even an USPSA and was ranked #6 in the world before he retired for medical reasons (arm and wrist)

          i tried to put together a class in the Bay Area a couple of years ago, had plenty of students, but couldn't find a range. a 3 day class would run about $200/day + range fees

          i'm working on putting together a class in the Sacto area later this year (Oct) but we haven't decided on the content yet
          Last edited by 9mmepiphany; 04-23-2010, 11:10 AM.
          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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          • #20
            sargenv
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4620

            I don't mean to say you shoot to lose; in fact, I wasn't talking about you but was speaking about myself. I re-read my post and last paragraph sounded a bit arrogant instead of funny so I deleted it. If you are offended, please accept my apology.
            Eh, no offense taken..

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            • #21
              gose
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 3953

              Originally posted by kmca
              Whenever I shoot a match at Richmond, the shooters there are always helpful and friendly. However, I don't want to "bother" them with a ton of questions about 3 gun while they are shooting a pistol match. Would it be possible to get one of your Grand Masters to give an orientation/beginning class? It would depend on interest, but I would think it would get more shooters to your club.
              I'm ROing at Richmond May 1st., feel free to come and "bother" me with as many questions as you want

              I'm sure that either of the two of the best 3-gunners up there (Keith and Chris) can be convinced to give an introduction class, if there is enough interest and it can be fit into the Richmond schedule. I know that Chris has already been talking about a shotgun class, but if there is more interest in a 3gun class, I'm sure that can be arranged instead.
              With Oden on our side.

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              • #22
                kmca
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 2371

                Thanks for the offer Gose but I'm already scheduled for something that day. Please keep me (and I'm sure, others) informed about any classes you may be offering. Except for pistol, rifle and shotgun, I'm pretty well set

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                • #23
                  gose
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 3953

                  I have talked to Chris and he was initially thinking of having a shotgun-only "run n gun" class, since that's usually the weakest point for most people. However, he can tailor the class to your needs, if you just let him know what you want to see in it and he'll make it happen.
                  The plan is to have a one day class end of May, early June, for 6-8 shooters.
                  The price will be around $100 and it will be held at Richmond Rod and Gun club.
                  There will also be some recommendations on what type of equipment to bring, so that everyone has at least the basics covered.
                  It will most likely also be a requirement that students can show some previous action shooting experience, so that some very basics can be left out. One day will go by fast, especially if there are 3 guns to go through, so for complete beginners, it might be a better idea to start off with the pistol-only class.

                  Some of Chris' accomplishments:
                  2008 DMPS Trigun Challenge 2nd Tac Scope
                  2008 R&R Racing Multigun 3rd Tac Scope
                  2008 MGM Ironman 4th Tac Scope
                  2009 Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun 5th Tac Scope
                  2009 R&R Racing Multigun Winner Tac Scope
                  2009 DMPS Trigun Challenge 2nd Tac Scope
                  2009 MGM Ironman 3rd Tac Scope
                  2010 Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun 3rd Tac Scope

                  I'll probably start a new thread when I have a confirmed date and more info. In the meantime, PM me if youre interested or have questions.
                  Last edited by gose; 04-26-2010, 3:58 PM.
                  With Oden on our side.

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                  • #24
                    kmca
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 2371

                    Thanks a lot Gose. I'll keep an eye open for your new thread. Only problem might be the 6-8 people. Do I get "dibs" for starting this thread?

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                    • #25
                      gose
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 3953

                      Originally posted by kmca
                      Thanks a lot Gose. I'll keep an eye open for your new thread. Only problem might be the 6-8 people. Do I get "dibs" for starting this thread?
                      Well, if we can't round up 6 guys for a class, it wont be much of a class, right?

                      Considering how much other places charge for classes, $100 for a day with one of the best 3-gunners in the country seems like a steal to me....
                      With Oden on our side.

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                      • #26
                        kmca
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2371

                        Noooo. I was thinking it would fill up fast! $100 is a bargain, if he can teach

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                        • #27
                          9mmepiphany
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 8075

                          hey for that price i'm in for just the shotgun or whatever the group decides. i don't have much equipment except a FN SLP for the class, but if it doesn't break me, i'm up for it...it's only about 100 miles
                          ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                          • #28
                            michaels
                            Member
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 101

                            Originally posted by gose
                            I have talked to Chris and he was initially thinking of having a shotgun-only "run n gun" class, since that's usually the weakest point for most people. However, he can tailor the class to your needs, if you just let him know what you want to see in it and he'll make it happen.
                            The plan is to have a one day class end of May, early June, for 6-8 shooters.
                            The price will be around $100 and it will be held at Richmond Rod and Gun club.
                            There will also be some recommendations on what type of equipment to bring, so that everyone has at least the basics covered.
                            It will most likely also be a requirement that students can show some previous action shooting experience, so that some very basics can be left out. One day will go by fast, especially if there are 3 guns to go through, so for complete beginners, it might be a better idea to start off with the pistol-only class.

                            Some of Chris' accomplishments:
                            2008 DMPS Trigun Challenge 2nd Tac Scope
                            2008 R&R Racing Multigun 3rd Tac Scope
                            2008 MGM Ironman 4th Tac Scope
                            2009 Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun 5th Tac Scope
                            2009 R&R Racing Multigun Winner Tac Scope
                            2009 DMPS Trigun Challenge 2nd Tac Scope
                            2009 MGM Ironman 3rd Tac Scope
                            2010 Superstition Mountain Mystery 3-Gun 3rd Tac Scope

                            I'll probably start a new thread when I have a confirmed date and more info. In the meantime, PM me if youre interested or have questions.
                            Don't forget his personal best, Sacramento shotgun match, beating everybody while he used a pump shotgun that he had never fired before (a big 5 special gun).

                            michaels
                            Michael Sousa

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                            • #29
                              D.carden
                              Member
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 189

                              There's also this...........



                              Attention, new or beginning 3-gunners!

                              If you are interested in receiving some instruction and practice time on the basic 3-gun skills necessary to improve your match results (or if you want to try your first 3-gun competition), here is an idea: Unique Gun Club is hosting an event that would consist of the following:

                              Date: Saturday, June 5th, 2010

                              -One-day instruction and practice session, on the Unique range, in Piru.

                              -Squad with the instructor team at the next X3 MULTI GUN match (separate entry fee required).

                              -X3 Multi Gun t-shirt.

                              Total cost: $75 (Unique Gun Club Members: $25)

                              Subjects to be covered:

                              *Shotgun loading technique
                              *Shotgun loading practice program
                              *Shotgun stage planning and round count management
                              *Shotgun stage shooting with post run critique
                              *Rifle zeroing and verification
                              *Rifle shooting technique (long range)
                              *Rifle shooting technique (short range)
                              *Rifle stage planning and round count management
                              *Rifle stage shooting with post run critique
                              *Choosing the right equipment and gear
                              *Gun modifications for competition

                              Please contact me if you are interested in participating. We are planning this practice session for Saturday, June 5th. The class size will be limited, so please sign up early.


                              Jack Boyd
                              Atlas Security
                              12647 Victory Boulevard
                              North Hollywood, CA 91606
                              (818) 769-0395

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                              • #30
                                gun fu
                                Member
                                • Jan 2010
                                • 479



                                In Norco, CA has periodic USPSA .Beginner and Intermediate .classes. by Local GM/ Jojo Vidanes et. al Check out their website.

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