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  • #16
    sigstroker
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2009
    • 19229

    IDPA shooters can't handle a complicated scoring system?

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    • #17
      rodralig
      CGN Contributor
      • Apr 2016
      • 4262

      Originally posted by ysr_racer
      You guys get the hit factor reference right? IDPA uses the simplest form of scoring.

      Time plus, it's your straight time, plus any seconds added for not hitting the A zone.
      Personally, too simplistic... It puts too heavy an emphasis on accuracy than speed (in contrast, Multi-Gun places an emphasis on speed).


      Originally posted by ysr_racer
      Most of us are USPSA shooters, and my buddy's don't care for all the "range lawyers" in IDPA. Me, I just wanted to pull the trigger.
      One of the reasons I stopped shooting IDPA. It was difficult finding squads that you won't be having "lawyers" gobbling up time and fun!


      Originally posted by sigstroker
      IDPA shooters can't handle a complicated scoring system?
      They only know how to add and subtract... Not multiply and divide...


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      WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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      • #18
        Corbin Dallas
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • May 2006
        • 6015

        Originally posted by sigstroker
        IDPA shooters can't handle a complicated scoring system?
        IDPA was intended to be a defensive sport, not a run and gun and hose all the non-white cardboard and steel you see as fast as you can with as many rounds as possible from your $5000+ race gun barely making PF.

        Oh, and you get to wear a fishing vest, like YSR did.

        NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

        WTB the following - in San Diego
        --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
        --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

        Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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        • #19
          rodralig
          CGN Contributor
          • Apr 2016
          • 4262

          Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
          IDPA was intended to be a defensive sport, not a run and gun and hose
          Nothing defensive about IDPA... That is just what the Wilsons want to "market" the sport.
          • Tricked out 1911/2011s in the ESP division
          • CCP division allows more or less the same mods as ESP
          • Can't even change the color of the trigger in SSP
          • CO division allows for the use of a magwell
          • Not allowing the use of WMLs (unless LEO/MIL in duty gear)
          • BUG at 6-rounds MAX when most sub-compacts are pushing out to 10
          • Artificially slowing down the game with the 1.0 down so the Wilsons can catch up (check on Bob Vogel and Ron Avery's take on that change)
          • Being reactive to a defensive scenario by not allowing speed reloads (up until now)
          • Artificially restricting "from cover" from the feet/faultlines but allowing major part of the body to be exposed (even during a slide lock reload)
          • Etc. etc.


          all the non-white cardboard and steel you see as fast as you can with as many rounds as possible from your $5000+ race gun barely making PF.
          That is more on the shooter prerogative... Here I am in a Level 2 match - factory ammo (Fiocchi 115GR) + stock OEM trigger + stock guide rod assembly. No make-up shots, even on steel. What held me back is not the gun nor ammo - but my technique, ie., gun not up and ready once I get into position, hesitation/overconfirmation of sight picture, not blending my positions/targets, etc.

          Gun is a $500 Komiefornia Glock 17 Gen 3. The only thing not stock in this gun is the slide (to accommodate the optic) and Talon Grips' tape.





          Oh, and you get to wear a fishing vest, like YSR did.

          I prefer a more discrete paparazzi's vest...

          One of my last matches in IDPA -





          That said - how I always explain the difference between the two...



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          WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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          • #20
            ysr_racer
            Banned
            • Mar 2006
            • 12014

            Last edited by ysr_racer; 03-19-2022, 3:49 PM.

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            • #21
              rodralig
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2016
              • 4262





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              WEGC - Shooting at 10-yards VS 20-yards - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7mdbNZ4j9U

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              • #22
                IVC
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2010
                • 17594

                Originally posted by ysr_racer
                The targets are actually all one color, tan. And I'm not sure why it says -1, -3. It's actually +1 and +3.
                Because you subtract it from the time... Think about it, think about it...
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                • #23
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  Originally posted by IVC
                  Because you subtract it from the time... Think about it, think about it...
                  I thought you add it to the time? Maybe I was robbed?

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                  • #24
                    SG29736
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1069

                    If you shoot a stage in 20 seconds with 1 hit in the -3 area and the rest in the -0 area, your score is 23. That's adding.

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                    • #25
                      ysr_racer
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 12014

                      Originally posted by SG29736
                      If you shoot a stage in 20 seconds with 1 hit in the -3 area and the rest in the -0 area, your score is 23. That's adding.
                      Maybe it's "common core"?

                      But yes, a 20 second run with one hit in the -3 results in a 23 second run.

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                      • #26
                        Corbin Dallas
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • May 2006
                        • 6015

                        How would USPS score it?

                        All alpha except one Charlie.

                        20 second run.

                        Well that depends, how many shooters that day? Are you #1 or last on the list.

                        If you're number one, then your hit factor is 100% otherwise, get out your calculator or abacus and wait until everyone is done...
                        NRA Life Member and Certified Instructor: Pistol - Rifle - Shotgun - PPITH - PPOTH - NRA Certified RSO

                        WTB the following - in San Diego
                        --Steyr M357A1 357SIG
                        --Five Seven IOM (round trigger guard)

                        Never forget - השואה... לעולם לא עוד.

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                        • #27
                          ysr_racer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 12014

                          Originally posted by Corbin Dallas
                          How would USPS score it?

                          All alpha except one Charlie.

                          20 second run.

                          Well that depends, how many shooters that day? Are you #1 or last on the list.

                          If you're number one, then your hit factor is 100% otherwise, get out your calculator or abacus and wait until everyone is done...
                          Abacus ? Look at Mr Steven Hawking !!

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                          • #28
                            tanks
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2014
                            • 4038

                            Well, with Practiscore all one needs to do is keep score all the calculations are done via the software.
                            "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                            "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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