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  • -hanko
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    Originally posted by acegunnr
    The late Boy Scout who has done a lot of helpful Front Sight videos in the past shares his insight on what has been going on.

    There's a ton of "I think", "it should be", "better than no training at all".

    I'm not impressed.

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  • acegunnr
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    The late Boy Scout who has done a lot of helpful Front Sight videos in the past shares his insight on what has been going on.

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  • damon1272
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    Well I contested the CC charge for the Knight membership in December sighting breach of contract and failure to provide services and promised items. The CC company reversed the charges. I’m sure I will now be out of Front Sight, and not revert back to old membership level.
    Just can’t do the roller coaster any more.

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  • Kate
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    Originally posted by SWalt
    If there were only 91,000 who actually paid FS any thing, whos fault is that? He set it up that way when members bought memberships at great discount from him with the idea of the members resale them. If he set it up so if you brought in a new member, they paid FS a discounted rate and you got a few hundred bucks for the effort or a free firearm, wouldn't that be much better? Then he would have at least had the money to give you that free gun! In other words, he shot himself in the foot.
    My apologies. No disagreement on my part. A post long ago said that if 261,000 people each paid $150, there would be $40 million/year. All I was saying was that at most 91,000 have ever paid ANYTHING.

    I was just responding to the $40 million number. No way would I get into THIS discussion, for lack of a better word...

    Katie

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  • SWalt
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    Originally posted by Kate
    In one of his "surveys" he asked this question:

    "Were you aware that of the 263,322 Front Sight Members, 171,842 Members have never paid Front Sight any money? Meaning, 171,842 of our 263,322 members have never purchased a membership from Front Sight, or paid for an upgrade, or purchased a special offer, or answered the call to financially participate in the Litigation Funding offers, or the Finish the Fight offers to defeat the unscrupulous people fraudulently attempting to fraudulently foreclose on Front Sight"

    So, there are, at most, about 91,000 people who *might* pay anything. And, I would guess MOST of those are One-And-Done folks.

    Katie
    If there were only 91,000 who actually paid FS any thing, whos fault is that? He set it up that way when members bought memberships at great discount from him with the idea of the members resale them. If he set it up so if you brought in a new member, they paid FS a discounted rate and you got a few hundred bucks for the effort or a free firearm, wouldn't that be much better? Then he would have at least had the money to give you that free gun! In other words, he shot himself in the foot.

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  • acegunnr
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    Life is good if you don't see wood! lol

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  • LV_G22
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    All I see is a post by beanz2 and then a post by Jedi54.

    I must be doing something right

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  • w00dmaster
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    Originally posted by Jedi54
    No wood, he is simply the provider of useful information unlike others in this thread.
    If he was the self appointed censor he would just block you for the rest of us.
    You mean censor, let get that straight! So you agree to censor people you do not like/agree with too? You have a finger push the ignore button your self you need Jedi to do that for you?
    Last edited by w00dmaster; 02-08-2022, 12:27 PM.

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  • Jedi54
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    No wood, he is simply the provider of useful information unlike others in this thread.
    If he was the self appointed censor he would just block you for the rest of us.

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  • w00dmaster
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    So your the gate keeper of relevant discussion's? The self appointed censor?

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  • beanz2
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    Put some of these characters on ignore and your Calguns experience would be much better. They have nothing useful to say, even elsewhere in the other threads.


    Click User CP under Calguns banner, then
    Choose “Edit Ignore List” under “Settings & Options”
    Add his name to “Add a Member to Your List...”
    Click “Okay”

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  • Spartan301
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    Jesus....over 60 posts of drama in one thread!

    Drama Queen much?

    Looks like over 88% of CG members disagree!
    Last edited by Spartan301; 02-08-2022, 8:34 AM.

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  • w00dmaster
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    Originally posted by Vinnie Boombatz
    Dude, you're really starting to sound like you're obsessed with Dr. Piazza. You've made your points over and over and over and over and over and we get it. Really though, time to just go for a walk, take a break, have a drink or do something else. Find a new thread to live in. You're super annoying, and that's coming from ME, someone who is pretty darn annoying around here.

    I'm not supporting Piazza and what not, but anytime someone says anything positive about the training you come back with some half-cocked straw man argument that isn't even relevant to what the person said.
    I went back an read my last 10 plus post's you should too Vinnie? Reread what you said about me and WTF are you talking about? I have made very constructive comments about others comments made and I have that right I have been on this threat for many years. Things I said many years ago would ultimately happen due to his Ponzi scheme all have happened just as I said they would. I think that I say things FS for cheap cost supporters like you do not like to hear. Vinnie if I bother you so much hit the Ignore button or just do not read what I post but personal attacks are not serving this thread either.
    Last edited by w00dmaster; 02-08-2022, 6:25 AM.

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  • Citizen_B
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    Originally posted by -hanko
    I've trained there half a dozen times.

    Piazza's actions have been ridiculous since he began in California.

    96% of those voting here favored dumping FS, or joining a class action suit.

    I wouldn't call it trolling, seems obvious to me if/when repeated promises that get better and better over the years never happen.

    Dr. Piazza has had a pretty transparent plan over the years, not sure why you cannot successfully see his plan.

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  • Kate
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    Originally posted by Supersapper
    Not true. He says he's got just south of 270,000 memberships. If he charges $150 per year from each membership regardless of who owns it, that would be right around $40,000,000 per year, and it would grow with new members. That works out to just less than $110,000 per day.. And that is running the operation exactly as it has been running, minus all of the freebies and upgrades.

    If it takes $40M per year to run FS, I want to see the books. Then we trim the BS. If Naish has been drawing a 7 figure salary, then it needs to stop and somehow the council or founders or even the government, needs to find a legit way to remove him.
    In one of his "surveys" he asked this question:

    "Were you aware that of the 263,322 Front Sight Members, 171,842 Members have never paid Front Sight any money? Meaning, 171,842 of our 263,322 members have never purchased a membership from Front Sight, or paid for an upgrade, or purchased a special offer, or answered the call to financially participate in the Litigation Funding offers, or the Finish the Fight offers to defeat the unscrupulous people fraudulently attempting to fraudulently foreclose on Front Sight"

    So, there are, at most, about 91,000 people who *might* pay anything. And, I would guess MOST of those are One-And-Done folks.

    Katie

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