WST1 9mm Load Data???

[Darryl Licht]

OK, got most of my ducks in a row here. However, I cannot find an load data for 9mm using the WST1 powder my bro gave me last month.

According to Winchesters website WST is: "The choice for 12 gauge AA duplicate hand loads and standard velocity handgun loads. Ideal for use in 45 Auto match applications."

Winchester has no load data for this powder online. I found several posts of reloaders having the same issue, and I found several "homebrew" recipes online I'm hesitant to trust. So now I'm worried that I need a different powder!

What say you all?

[ElDub1950]

As I understand it, if mfgs don't list load data it's because they don't recommend it.

[BajaJames83]

Ive done. but you should not rely on this %100 do some more research...
I pulled some data from Brian enos.com and a few other resources I believe my LEE manual has data as well.

124 gr Xtreme plated bullet 4.5gr WST OAL: 1.145
115 gr Xtreme plated bullet 4.5gr WST OAL: 1.145

Ive loaded about 10,000 124gr and 5000 115gr all shot great nice and clean no pressure problems cycled all my 9mm guns %100. Didnt have a crono at the time so no vel data.

[ironhorse1]

Do you reload the 40 Smith & Wesson? I have a Winchester data sheet for that caliber and WST.

irh

[BajaJames83]

Ive reloaded 9mm, 40, and 45 with WST

[enzo357]

Trade someone your WST for Win231. Lot of data.

[Darryl Licht]

Trade someone your WST for Win231. Lot of data.

That's a BIG possibility!

[XDRoX]

I personally would not go over 5.4gr for 115gr bullets and I would not go over 5.2gr for 124gr bullets.
This is an old manual. Back when they posted real data, not lawyered down crap.
I've loaded thousands of 9mm with WST and never had a problem. It's ideal for light to medium loads. I don't trust it running too hot. There's better powders for that.
Most the 9mm I load is 4.8gr under 124gr plated bullet. They shoot fine in all 8 of my 9mm's.

[thenodnarb]

I just reloaded 100 9mm 124 grain powder coated cast round nose with WST for my father in law. the bullet i believe is a TL356-124-2R .I found that 4.4 grains was all that would fit in the case with an OAL of 1.135. I also suspect there was some bullet push back(don't know what to call it) because of the compressed powder. I don't know how people are loading anywhere near 5 grains with a 124 grain in this case unless they are loaded way long, which doesn't seem possible. even with 4.4 grains there wasn't much room left in the case for the bullet.
Unfortunately this load wasn't tested this weekend like we planned. I'll keep report back as soon as we test it out.

BTW an out of print hornady manual lists 4.6 grains starting charge with WST, with a max of 5.2 or 5.4 with a 124 grain bullet
The data is out there if you google it. In fact I posted it just last week.

Here it is:

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=14078426&postcount=12

I only started with a 4.4 grain charge because the hornady manual suggested a start of 4.6 and I didn't want to start too low. I was going to start at 3.6 and work up to 4.4. There is no way I'm going over 4.4 now though.

BTW WST is fine for standard loads, but don't try and push it to higher velocities. Its too fast and builds pressure VERY quickly. That said, its great for my 38 spl loads in my 3" 686.

[Darryl Licht]

I personally would not go over 5.4gr for 115gr bullets and I would not go over 5.2gr for 124gr bullets.
This is an old manual. Back when they posted real data, not lawyered down crap.
I've loaded thousands of 9mm with WST and never had a problem. It's ideal for light to medium loads. I don't trust it running too hot. There's better powders for that.
Most the 9mm I load is 4.8gr under 124gr plated bullet. They shoot fine in all 8 of my 9mm's.

What book is that image taken from?

I just reloaded 100 9mm 124 grain powder coated cast round nose with WST for my father in law. the bullet i believe is a TL356-124-2R .I found that 4.4 grains was all that would fit in the case with an OAL of 1.135. I also suspect there was some bullet push back(don't know what to call it) because of the compressed powder. I don't know how people are loading anywhere near 5 grains with a 124 grain in this case unless they are loaded way long, which doesn't seem possible. even with 4.4 grains there wasn't much room left in the case for the bullet.
Unfortunately this load wasn't tested this weekend like we planned. I'll keep report back as soon as we test it out.

BTW an out of print hornady manual lists 4.6 grains starting charge with WST, with a max of 5.2 or 5.4 with a 124 grain bullet
The data is out there if you google it. In fact I posted it just last week.

Here it is:

http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=14078426&postcount=12

I only started with a 4.4 grain charge because the hornady manual suggested a start of 4.6 and I didn't want to start too low. I was going to start at 3.6 and work up to 4.4. There is no way I'm going over 4.4 now though.

BTW WST is fine for standard loads, but don't try and push it to higher velocities. Its too fast and builds pressure VERY quickly. That said, its great for my 38 spl loads in my 3" 686.

Thanks to both of you for some good info!

[stilly]

OK, got most of my ducks in a row here. However, I cannot find an load data for 9mm using the WST1 powder my bro gave me last month.

According to Winchesters website WST is: "The choice for 12 gauge AA duplicate hand loads and standard velocity handgun loads. Ideal for use in 45 Auto match applications."

Winchester has no load data for this powder online. I found several posts of reloaders having the same issue, and I found several "homebrew" recipes online I'm hesitant to trust. So now I'm worried that I need a different powder!

What say you all?

WST is good stuff for 9mm. Good pop pop pop...

WST was my FIRST 9mm load. Lots of folks love it. I have a data card in the garage but I think folks already chimed in.
Oh yeah, I emptied out the bottle using it for .45 acp. Damn though it is nice and easy metering...

[XDRoX]

Just curious Darryl, why did you call it WST1? Why the 1?

[Pablo5959]

I worked my loads up to 4.2 gr and was happy with that for putting holes in paper. Cycles just fine and saves a little powder to. Good clean burning powder.

[Darryl Licht]

Just curious Darryl, why did you call it WST1? Why the 1?

That's what it says on the bottle:

WST1.jpg

[XDRoX]

That's what it says on the bottle:

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I never noticed that.