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  • scotchblade
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 795

    Will addding another single stage press double my output?

    While having my morning coffee, I watched some YouTube vids on the Redding TR-7 turret press. I currently load three pistol calibers on a Lee Classic Cast single stage. I'm fairly new to reloading and it has served me well, but I'd like to increase my efficiency and output.

    Looks like any turret press would do this (the Redding appears to be a beast) but they are a little pricey and it looks like priming arms and such are not included, adding more to the cost.

    I'm wondering how much things would speed up by adding a second Lee single stage. The Lee would be much more affordable and I'd already be familiar with it's functionality.

    Will two single stages equate to double the output in the same period of time?

    Please don't suggest a progressive, not interested in going that route at this time.

    Thanks for your advice.
    Last edited by scotchblade; 03-21-2014, 9:11 AM.
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    CalTeacher
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 828

    Originally posted by scotchblade
    While having my morning coffee, I watched some YouTube vids on the Redding TR-7 turret press. I currently load three pistol calibers on a Lee Classic Cast single stage. I'm fairly new to reloading and it has served me well, but I'd like to increase my efficiency and output.

    Looks like any turret press would do this (the Redding appears to be a beast) but they are a little pricey and it looks like priming arms and such are not included, adding more to the cost.

    I'm wondering how much things would speed up by adding a second Lee single stage. The Lee would be much more affordable and I'd already be familiar with it's functionality.

    Will two single stages equate to double the output in the same period of time?

    Please don't suggest a progressive, not interested in going that route at this time.

    Thanks for your advice.
    In short, no. Unless you're operating both presses at the same time and doubling the amount of handle pulls per a specified unit of time, then you're still batch loading. It may be faster by virtue of having less time spend changing dies, but not so fast as to double your output.

    Look into a Lee Classic Turret if you want to double output without going progressive.

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    • #3
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      unless you can be in two places at one time I don't see any increase in out put..try spending more time behind one press .
      Keep it simple!

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      • #4
        Chevy57fan
        Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 373

        I wouldn't be able to pay attention to the details if I was trying to run two presses at the same time and likely would end up with double charged cases or some other disaster.

        Just my 2 cents.

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        • #5
          the86d
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2011
          • 9587

          Die changing is a big deal for time-saving, and so is changing and adjusting for different bullets, even on a progressive. Another press that is used for depriming, or sizing, or whatever for the same caliber, different die for the same setup could... however maybe some type of breach-locking (quick change bushings?) could also help with this, a bit, even on the same press, as they would be set-up already, and a quick turn swaps them.

          The turret isn't a good option (in my mind to begin with), as it takes 4-7 cranks per completed cartridge, as 500rd on a turret would be 2000-3500 handle pulls (depending on the press)... THAT is just illogical to me.
          Last edited by the86d; 03-21-2014, 9:32 AM.

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          • #6
            357magnum
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2014
            • 1219

            single stage press

            It wont speed up your loading, but will make things more convenient.
            I use a LEE Classic for depriming and resizing, and RCBS Rock Chucker for everything else.
            I just like having multiple reloading tools, it makes life more fun.
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            • #7
              rcschummers
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              • Jun 2009
              • 1249

              Like the aforementioned, only of they are being ran simultaneously.
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              • #8
                Jimi Jah
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                • Jan 2014
                • 18902

                It will, as long as you add another operator with it.

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                • #9
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                  If I add another truck to my fleet will it mean I can haul more? Probably not unless I add another person. But, that doesn't mean that it wouldn't save time.
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                  • #10
                    Citadelgrad87
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 16928

                    I see what you mean. Presently, you size/deprime everything, then swap dies and probably prime and charge, then seat and crimp. Even though you've deprime dans sized everything, you've still got a long way to go, so it seems like anther press would speed it up.

                    It might feel like you're going faster, because when you're done, more steps are done.

                    I think if you timed it, you'd only be saving the die setup time.
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                    • #11
                      scotchblade
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 795

                      Originally posted by the86d
                      Die changing is a big deal for time-saving, and so is changing and adjusting for different bullets, even on a progressive. Another press that is used for depriming, or sizing, or whatever for the same caliber, different die for the same setup could... however maybe some type of breach-locking (quick change bushings?) could also help with this, a bit, even on the same press, as they would be set-up already, and a quick turn swaps them.
                      I've got those breech lock bushings, so swapping is a snap.

                      Thanks for all the replies, they are a big help. Liked the one about adding a truck to the fleet but needing another man to double the haul.

                      Sounds like a second stage won't double my output but will save some time and add some convenience for not much of an investment. That may be good enough (for now, anyway.)

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                      • #12
                        MR_X
                        Member
                        • Jul 2013
                        • 424

                        Like stated above, you are not going to gain much by adding another single stage. Get a Lee Classic turrent press and it will help a bit. The only real way to speed up the process is by _________ (you don't want to hear it).

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                        • #13
                          bohoki
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                          • Jan 2006
                          • 20825

                          it would only save you the time of removing and installing the die on you one press

                          the only way to increase productivity is if you can do multiple steps during the one handle actuation which is sorry to say the progressive

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                          • #14
                            scotchblade
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 795

                            Originally posted by MR_X
                            \The only real way to speed up the process is by _________ (you don't want to hear it).
                            The P word? Perhaps I should be more open minded! Since all I do is pistol and probably that's all I ever will, I just took a look at demos of the Dillon Square Deal B.

                            Hmmmm....

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                            • #15
                              mark501w
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1699

                              Don't fix sumpthen that a'nt broke.

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