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  • MR_X
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    • Jul 2013
    • 424

    Crimped primer question 45 ACP

    Was sorting my brass and came to this few cases that looked like they could be crimped primer. I when I put an used primer in it just to see if they are going to go in, in which they did without issue. So now I'm a bit confused if they are or not. Was wondering if I could get some assistance. LARGE picture.

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    Chief-7700
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    • May 2008
    • 3382

    From the looks of them most all are crimped.

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    • #3
      mark501w
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 1699

      I know they used to, check'em. Take that TZZ head stamp & toss'em. I've thrown out handfuls because of large variations.

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      • #4
        emptybottle151
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2010
        • 1503

        Oh WCC we meet again... Ya those are crimped, so are the WCC 9mm (my personal battle) So you have three options:

        1. Try to reload as usual and lose your mind (tried going slow but still had ugly primers seated)

        2. Toss, recycle, or trade.

        3. Remove the crimp (also a PITA) I think RCBS has a primer pocket swaging die set for pistols, but Im not sure.
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        • #5
          'ol shooter
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 4646

          I had a bunch of different crimped cases, and my RCBS swager fixed 'em right up. Once you swage the TZZ's, there's not a thing wrong with them. If I get a case where the primer goes in loosely, but still stays in when I put it in my Kinetic Bullet Puller backwards and smack it on the bench a few times, I mark the base with a marker, and load it. That way, I can chuck the marked one(s) when I start processing them.
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          • #6
            emptybottle151
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 1503

            Originally posted by 'ol shooter
            I had a bunch of different crimped cases, and my RCBS swager fixed 'em right up. Once you swage the TZZ's, there's not a thing wrong with them. If I get a case where the primer goes in loosely, but still stays in when I put it in my Kinetic Bullet Puller backwards and smack it on the bench a few times, I mark the base with a marker, and load it. That way, I can chuck the marked one(s) when I start processing them.
            Did you use the rifle set or a pistol set? I have the RCBS rifle primer pocket swager but I've yet to see a pistol set.
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            • #7
              mark501w
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1699

              TZZ cases were the only cases I could never set my dies do what you want.

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              • #8
                MR_X
                Member
                • Jul 2013
                • 424

                Never read anything good about TZZ so those are going on the waste pile.

                Thanks for the leasons fellas. Not going to use them unless I really have to and by then I will propbably have the reamer/swager equipment since I will be reloading rifle soon. Thanks again

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                • #9
                  bohoki
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 20825

                  well they are mil spec so they crimp them cause you dont want a primer to pop loose in a thompson

                  i think they also crimp the small primer non toxic ones

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                  • #10
                    mark501w
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1699

                    I use a cutter cuts a nice little bevel where the swedge was helps in seating.

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                    • #11
                      Fishslayer
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                      • Jan 2010
                      • 13035

                      TZZ and Amerc go straight to the scrap bucket.
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                      • #12
                        mindwreck
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 372

                        I perfer to ream crimps. the small bevel helps primers line up little better.

                        Whats up with tzz brass? I've used some of it and works fine. Its military IMI made brass.

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                        • #13
                          jj805
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                          • Feb 2012
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                          Originally posted by emptybottle151
                          Did you use the rifle set or a pistol set? I have the RCBS rifle primer pocket swager but I've yet to see a pistol set.
                          They are one in the same. LRP and LPP use the same swage setup. The same goes for SRP and SPP.

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                          • #14
                            bohoki
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 20825

                            i use the same tool to fix them as i do with my crimped 308 and 30-06

                            i also use a little countersink bit just to make the primers funnel in better

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                            • #15
                              stilly
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                              • Jul 2009
                              • 10685

                              Originally posted by emptybottle151
                              Oh WCC we meet again... Ya those are crimped, so are the WCC 9mm (my personal battle) So you have three options:

                              1. Try to reload as usual and lose your mind (tried going slow but still had ugly primers seated)

                              2. Toss, recycle, or trade.

                              3. Remove the crimp (also a PITA) I think RCBS has a primer pocket swaging die set for pistols, but Im not sure.
                              $35 or so gets you a primer pocket swaging die from RCBS. Good die. I used it on .223 LC and it did pretty good.

                              Harbor freight also sells counter sinks for like $2.99. They fit on the end of a driver, takes about less then a second to bevel those crimps on most cases.
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