Dillon 650 Frustration

[KShack]

^^mbauer, why would i need to trim every time if its well within the limits of the case gauge?

[KShack]

bump. how much crimp should i have on my 223/556?

[bigdawg86]

bump. how much crimp should i have on my 223/556?

I don't crimp. I got tired of trying to find the spot where crimp occurs without collapsing the shoulder... I gave up and have never had an issue with setback.

[ExtremeX]

bump. how much crimp should i have on my 223/556?

[KShack]

I was using some 55 grain soft points and had some setback when i racked the bolt and ejected the round.

[ExtremeX]

Have you measured neck tension to see if it’s sufficient first?

I generally run about 0.0025” neck tension for my semi-autos if I don’t crimp, and 0.001” neck tension for bolt guns.

That’s generally sufficient to hold the bullet without the need for crimp on either application.

I apply crimp for different reasons… I don’t debur the outside of the case neck when loading my plinking ammo to save time, but I apply a light crimp to move that area close into the cannlure. I probably don’t even need to do that, but it makes me feel better.

[KShack]

i have not. Ive really only reloaded pistol ammo before this. So im kind of a rookie when it comes to rifle cartridges

[damndave]

Just some observations/recommendations from browsing this thread.

You do not flare bottleneck cases
How new is the powder measure? Have you run a lot of powder through it already to coat the internals with graphite?
Most people don't crimp their 223.
You still need to trim your brass even though it is within SAAMI spec especially if you are going to crimp. If the brass is different lengths, it is impossible to get a consistent crimp.
When the brass is different length, the range of motion on the powder bar will be different.

[KShack]

The powder drop problem has virtually been fixed. I just leave the press in the upright position for a few seconds to allow for full drop and its all good.

Only problems left are the primers and crimp.

But true stilly i should call them

[KShack]

The powder drop problem has virtually been fixed. I just leave the press in the upright position for a few seconds to allow for full drop and its all good.

Only problems left are the primers and crimp.

But true stilly i should call them

[bruce381]

boattail boolits will solve the crimp deal primers maybe cases have a slight primer pocket crimp? than needs to be cut or swaged out?

[XxWoodsHunterxX]

The powder drop problem has virtually been fixed. I just leave the press in the upright position for a few seconds to allow for full drop and its all good.

Only problems left are the primers and crimp.

But true stilly i should call them

Military brass I have has to be swage in order to prime. What brass are you using. Remove crimp and test a couple to see if they are crimped


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[KShack]

I swaged all my brass. The problem lies in the Dillon primer tube not in the brass. Primers seat fine in the brass just get stuck in the machines mechanism

[Revoman]

While I don't have a 650, I do have a SDB, but I believe that the primer tubes are basically the same. I had some issue with the primer tube early on and the issue was that I was tightening the knurled end too tight and crushing the plastic primer tip at the end. You only wanna barely tighten that knurled end enough to prevent movement. Don't monkey it down.

Worked on the SDB anyway, just a thought.

[general_disarray]

I have been loading 223 on my Dillon 650 for a few months now and have not had these problems. I would double check the powder measure adjustment. When you load the straight wall cases you set it to flair the case a small amount. On the bottleneck cases you need to make sure its set to full travel on the upstroke and no further (no need to flair). Also on the 223 it takes a little longer to dump the powder (small neck) so give it a good second or 2 on top of the up stroke. I have never crimped 223's. Also if you have too much lube you'll crush the shoulders. As far as the primers i have used cci and federal and have not had any feeding problems. Just make sure your using all small primer parts and not using the large primer parts. All small primers should be the same diameter. Another thing to watch for is when you dump powder all over the machine, take it apart and clean it out. Sometimes it jams parts up and the moving parts wont line up right.