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  • ptroxx
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2259

    Using lead bullets.. ? ?

    I Was wondering what the advantages and dis advantages of using lead bullets in a pistol.. ? ?

    I have never used lead , what should I look out for ?
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    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34947

    pro: cheep
    con: lead fouling

    The end

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    • #3
      stilly
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      • Jul 2009
      • 10685

      Originally posted by five.five-six
      pro: cheep
      con: lead fouling

      The end

      Yup.

      Do it right and you have cheap bullets that can move, do it wrong and you have skidmarks all over inside and accuracy drops.
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      • #4
        Bill Steele
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2010
        • 5028

        Lead is easier on the bore.
        When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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        • #5
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34947

          Originally posted by Bill Steele
          Lead is easier on the bore.
          And creates lower pressure but can't be loaded quite as fast.

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          • #6
            gemoose23
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2009
            • 1079

            You can ask for a sample of bullets from most lead bullet manufacturers.

            Then you can slug your barrel with the bullet to confirm fitment and eliminate leading.

            You would be surprised the amount of people that shoot lead cast bullets. I have reached Power Factor 170 easily with Cast bullets. Enough speed for me.
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            • #7
              ptroxx
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 2259

              These are Premium Hard Cast Lead Bullets ... I hear some guns dont like to shoot lead..

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              • #8
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34947

                Originally posted by ptroxx
                These are Premium Hard Cast Lead Bullets ... I hear some guns dont like to shoot lead..
                Cheep guns like glocks have problems with lead.

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                • #9
                  Bill Steele
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5028

                  Originally posted by five.five-six
                  Cheep guns like glocks have problems with lead.
                  I shoot lead out of most of my cheap Glocks.
                  When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                  • #10
                    JagerDog
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2011
                    • 15856

                    Originally posted by five.five-six
                    And creates lower pressure but can't be loaded quite as fast.
                    In most pistol calibers, the lead can actually be loaded faster. Jackets have more friction. Often, manuals stop short of maxing out lead, gearing their loadings for target only.

                    Most my target stuff is lead. I've got a Marlin microgroove carbine which isn't fond of it so far. I'm hoping the hollowbase bullets I loaded up work better in it by getting a better purchase on the rfiling.

                    Properly done, leading isn't significant. It is a bit of an art though. The occasioanal magazine/cylinder of jacketed bullets takes care of most lead issues.
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                    • #11
                      five.five-six
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 34947

                      Originally posted by Bill Steele
                      I shoot lead out of most of my cheap Glocks.
                      Do you still use the cheep glock barrels or did you change them out for better ones?

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                      • #12
                        uhlan1
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 6217

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                        • #13
                          tiller
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 794

                          How do you tell if there is leading?? What does it look like? Ive been thinking of making the move from plated to lead
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                          • #14
                            Bill Steele
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 5028

                            Originally posted by five.five-six
                            Do you still use the cheep glock barrels or did you change them out for better ones?
                            I generally still use the cheap Glock barrels. I have a few not cheap KKM, but ironically their tight throats and chambers lead to all sorts of chambering issues. The roomy Glocks have no such problems.

                            Originally posted by tiller
                            How do you tell if there is leading?? What does it look like? Ive been thinking of making the move from plated to lead
                            Depends on the leading you get, but the most common will look like Stilly described above, dark grey skid marks, how thick depends on how bad the bullet fit (how much too small in diameter).

                            Bullet fit is most important, lube is second. If I am pushing some serious pressure, I use gas checked lead (i.e. mainly in 10mm for me these days)
                            When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                            • #15
                              M27
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 871

                              I like lead but to keep leading down a a good bullet to barrel fit is key, as well as lower velocities leading has never been a problem.

                              To keep velocities down but keep a decent power factor I like to use heavier bullets, 147 in 9mm, and 230 in 45. Keep velocities below 1000fps.
                              I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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