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  • #31
    GW
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2004
    • 16078

    Thats all very good and I realize that ammo manufacturers probably have little love for reloaders but there still should have been some sort of notification/warning

    OK I'm done ranting now
    Just pissed because I have a shotload of 45 ACP brass I have to re-inspect.
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    • #32
      DLBullyz
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 627

      ya me too

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      • #33
        stilly
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2009
        • 10685

        Originally posted by wild_weasel
        Could it be that Large Pistol Primers are going the way of the old balloon head cases? While I am okay with the status quo of large and small pistol primers it would have been neat if the industry had standardized on the small format of primers early on for pistol ammo.
        I shoot a lot of 30 Carbine in my BlackHawk using 32-20 data and small pistol primers.

        Cheers,
        W-W
        I dunno bout dat. I mean, you still have 44 mag, 10mm, 50 AE and others...

        I can see LP being around for a while.
        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

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        • #34
          vmwerks
          Norcal Cyclist
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jun 2009
          • 3502

          Originally posted by wild_weasel
          I have saved up a respectable amount of the Federal small primer 45 ACP brass along with a few in other brands. For the time being it is an added step having to sort it out from my range pickups. But if I were low on components and it came down to loading 38 Special or 45 ACP you bet I would be using my small pistol primers in the 45 ACP cases.

          Cheers,
          W-W

          This is what I do... I've got a huge number of spp .45 brass. I load them and kep them separate. I never shoot them together with my lpp brass.

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          • #35
            RX729
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 846

            Originally posted by stilly
            +2

            Or give it to someone who wants to deal with sp .45 brass. Or mail it back to blazer or federal with a postcard saying THANKS ASSHATS...
            lol.....!

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            • #36
              welldriller
              Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 138

              I load 45SPP, that way I dont have to change the primer setup when changing from .40SPP

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              • #37
                CityHunt3r
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 933

                So you all agree SPP is what manufactures are using in 45acp manufacturing now? I dont want to go out and buy a box of 45 rounds and get stuck with brass that has LPP pockets >.< I dont know the difference cause I'm new to reloading.
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                • #38
                  Hallx7
                  Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 280

                  CityHunt3r... Manufacturers are still making both. It's very easy to tell the difference between the large and small pockets. You just need to make sure to look at the primer pocket and sort accordingly. When in doubt just compare them side by side

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                  • #39
                    Fishslayer
                    In Memoriam
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 13035

                    Originally posted by stilly
                    To save up a respectable amount you must have gone through a LOT of shells...
                    Not in my area. Both WalMarts nearest the range I go to have stocked the SP Federal for some time now. Last time I looked the Federal SP .45ACP box was identical to the LP box except just a bit smaller. I get quite a few "incidental bycatch" policing my own brass.

                    Used to be the "dot" Federal "dot" headstamp was SPP only. Not anymore. I've been finding that headstamp with LPP lately.
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                    • #40
                      Dutch3
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 14181

                      I sort and keep it all. I have encountered shooters at the range who want no part of their SPP brass and happily pick it up for them.
                      Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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                      • #41
                        CAL.BAR
                        CGSSA OC Chapter Leader
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5632

                        OK - so I'm about to start reloading. (.45, .40, and .357) to start. With regard to SPP vs. LPP which uses what? I know .45 goes either way, and I have little or no brass saved up, so I can basically buy one or the other (SPP or LPP) I'd like to not have to change the primers in the Dillon 650 too often, so I'd like to get the most of either SPP or LPP in all of the calibers.

                        So - do I go SPP in the .45 or large?
                        Last edited by CAL.BAR; 03-03-2013, 6:04 PM. Reason: spelling

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                        • #42
                          cycle61
                          Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 377

                          Your other calibers are going to use SPP, so if you're buying fresh .45 brass, just go with that.

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                          • #43
                            ExtremeX
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 7160

                            Since you don’t have a lot of brass saved up… you may not have a choice at times…

                            If you are buying factory .45 ACP to shoot and save the brass, certain manufactures are using SPP and is becoming a common trend.

                            I have decent amount of .45 ACP brass, most of it all LPP, but all my new factory ammo (Blazer Brass and Federal) is ALL SPP.

                            Personally I prefer LPP, because I have a lot more LPP than SPP…
                            ExtremeX

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                            • #44
                              Bill Steele
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5028

                              Originally posted by djandj
                              OK - so I'm about to start reloading. (.45, .40, and .357) to start. With regard to SPP vs. LPP which uses what? I know .45 goes either way, and I have little or no brass saved up, so I can basically buy one or the other (SPP or LPP) I'd like to not have to change the primers in the Dillon 650 too often, so I'd like to get the most of either SPP or LPP in all of the calibers.

                              So - do I go SPP in the .45 or large?
                              You can use SPP exclusively. When you find/buy LPP 45 auto cases, just set them aside and when you have bucket full, trade them to someone that has some SPP cases that prefers LPP. Lots of guys will trade the SPP for the LPP.

                              There is no difference except having to change to LPP when switching from your other calibers and having to buy both sizes of primer. No need, just trade.

                              Be aware, the one glitch to this plan is some of the SPP 45 Auto cases have crimps, like mil-surp, so you will have to swage or chamfer the primer pockets on these. There are some LPP cases that also need a swage or chamfer, but most of those are really old mil-surp with headstamps that go back as far as '43 up through like mid-70's.

                              Have fun, good luck.
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