Lubing

[CalTeacher]

It's because you're using a progressive is why it works so well.

When loading single stage, the expantion is done on the return stroke after sizing, by an expanding ball. On a progressive, the expantion is done on the up-stroke of the powder-charging station using a conical expander. If using dies with an expanding ball, you have to lubricate the inside of the case neck, or the cases will stick. It's not necessary on a conical expander because you are not re-sizing the case neck with the exander inside the case.

True, but after a while, the cost of the lube is going to exceed the differential between the cost of a carbide sizing die. It might take a while, but it will happen eventually.

There's a lot of ways to skin this cat but in the interest of helping the OP, I think it would be easier and more cost effective if he just got the carbide die. Plus, it will take another step out of the process, thus making it easier for him. (my personal opinion)

My resizing die is the same die I would use if i were to use my progressive, turret, or single stage. The die does not change with the press. The powder charging die does not expand the neck on a rifle case. With rifle cases, the expanding is done on the sizing die, not at a separate station. It's the opposite with straight wall pistol cases.

My point about Hornady One Shot is that my rifle cases don't stick at all. I've noticed some folks saying not to use it on rifle cases. I was just curious why they had such bad experiences.

I agree there are many ways to skin this cat. My opinion is that since I lube my brass anyways, having steel dies doesn't matter. In my experience, 9mm brass can be more difficult than others to resize. I find that a little lube really helps to smooth out that process, even with my carbide dies. But, YMMV.

[CGT80]

tumble
spray with hornady one shot
dump in dillon 1050
crank handle like a raped ape

It works for me and it makes loading much easier. I even lubed cases with carbide dies when I loaded single stage.

I tried one shot on 223 brass. I got one stuck and haven't tried it again. Dillon spray lube works great on rifle brass, then I tumble it off.

I have used one shot and hornady unique on my 460 brass. They both seemed to work well.

[the86d]

I want to say I have reloaded about 3200 9mm, and 1400 .223/5.56, and never removed Dillon Care Lubricant, and only had issues with powder sticking to the cases when I WAY OVERLUBED on my 1st 2 sets of 100...

[CEDaytonaRydr]

I want to say I have reloaded about 3200 9mm, and 1400 .223/5.56, and never removed Dillon Care Lubricant

That's because you're not supposed to. Dillon and "one shot" doesn't require removal. When reloading on a dillon, neck expansion is done on the powder charging station. That's why you're not getting stuck cases on rifle, and on pistol, the cases are straight walled.

...and only had issues with powder sticking to the cases when I WAY OVERLUBED on my 1st 2 sets of 100...

That's because Dillon dries quickly. Lee does not! The OP needs to get the Lee Lube off of the cases.




Please, everyone just stop arguing for the sake of arguing!!! The OP is trying to learn and this ridiculous back and forth is only going to confuse him. No more "I never lube my cases and I've never had a stuck case" comments, please.

[Colt562]

Aahaha I stopped reading them after I got a straight answer, I cleaned them off with the liquid method and can say I'm actually quite happy with the results

[CalTeacher]

That's because you're not supposed to. Dillon and "one shot" doesn't require removal. When reloading on a dillon, neck expansion is done on the powder charging station. That's why you're not getting stuck cases on rifle, and on pistol, the cases are straight walled.



That's because Dillon dries quickly. Lee does not! The OP needs to get the Lee Lube off of the cases.




Please, everyone just stop arguing for the sake of arguing!!! The OP is trying to learn and this ridiculous back and forth is only going to confuse him. No more "I never lube my cases and I've never had a stuck case" comments, please.

I don't really think anyone is trying to argue, but some valid points are being discussed. Some reloading procedures really do come down to personal preference, such as how and when to lube cases.

I think it is worth pointing out incorrect information, however. Case mouth expansion is done with a sizing die on bottle neck rifle cartridges and at a separate station for straight walled pistol cases. I doesn't matter what type of press is being used because the dies function in the same manner. It is not true to say that the reason we aren't getting stuck rifle cases is because case mouth expansion is done at the powder station.