Lubing

[Colt562]

I think I might just continue to use what I am using and then clean the cases in the end, either the liquid method or tumbling

[CalTeacher]

Just hit your brass with some Hornady one shot, size, then tumble as you would if your cases were dirty. It shouldn't take long to tumble that lube off.

[Colt562]

Thinks I don't have a tumbler yet...looks like a trip to turners is in my future or ammo bros

[drdarrin@sbcglobal.net]

So I started my first 9mm cases today, I started off lubing, sizing, and depriming them, the cleaned the primer pockets, do I need to clean the lube off the cases before I go into putting powder and bullets in them? My sizing die isn't carbide but the rest of he dies are carbide.

Are you sure you don't have this backwards? I've never heard of carbide expander, bullet seating or crimping dies before and I've been on this track for a while.

But assuming what you say is true, you need to clean off the lube if it will still attract dirt. Any left on the inside of the cases may foul the powder. Any left on the outside of cases will attract dirt and cause unnecessary wear on your firearm.

I only use carbide sizer dies for my strait wall cases and never lube them.

[Colt562]

You can actually skip that step on pistols. Doesn't really have enough of an effect to justify it.

I actually enjoy doing it though, kills some time

[CSACANNONEER]

I've never lubed a single 9mm case.

[Colt562]

I've never lubed a single 9mm case.

Carbide dies?

[CalTeacher]

Ok, seriously, you dont have to remove the case lube after sizing. I never do. It won't foul your powder or hurt your firearm.

[scotty99]

Ok, seriously, you dont have to remove the case lube after sizing. I never do. It won't foul your powder or hurt your firearm.

Better yet, you don't have to lube 9mm cases at all. I have loaded 10s of thousands of handgun cartridges from 9mm to .454 Casull, and I've never lubed a single one. Since 9mm is a tapered case, it would be nearly impossible to get one to stick.

Don't put the lube on to begin with, then you don't have to worry about how to take it off.

[CalTeacher]

Better yet, you don't have to lube 9mm cases at all. I have loaded 10s of thousands of handgun cartridges from 9mm to .454 Casull, and I've never lubed a single one. Since 9mm is a tapered case, it would be nearly impossible to get one to stick.

Don't put the lube on to begin with, then you don't have to worry about how to take it off.

You do if you have steel dies. Heck, I lube even with my carbide dies because it makes my progressive run so much smoother. I've loaded almost 10k in the past few months...every one of them was lubed and because of that my press ran extremely smooth.

[Colt562]

Yeah I tried to lube one and then run a few un lubed after and I could definently feel the difference, the unlubed felt like they would stick at the top of the stroke

[CEDaytonaRydr]

But don't use On-Shot with rifle cases unless you have a stuck case remover, ask me how I know.

Well, there's a caveat to using Dillon and/or "one shot":

It works great, as long as you're not using a sizing die with an expanding ball. For example, I use my RCBS dies on my Dillon press; which is fine, I just have to lube the neck with something so the cases don't get stuck. Dry Micha works really well...

I lube even with my carbide dies because it makes my progressive run so much smoother.

Yeah, but he's not using a progressive press, so it's not going to save him any time or effort to lube.

Just get the carbide dies and don't look back...

I actually enjoy doing it though, kills some time

Well, it can't hurt. I just don't really have "time to kill". Time is at a premium for me, these days...

[CalTeacher]

Well, there's a caveat to using Dillon and/or "one shot":

It works great, as long as you're not using a sizing die with an expanding ball. For example, I use my RCBS dies on my Dillon press; which is fine, I just have to lube the neck with something so the cases don't get stuck. Dry Micha works really well...



Yeah, but he's not using a progressive press, so it's not going to save him any time or effort to lube.

Just get the carbide dies and don't look back...



Well, it can't hurt. I just don't really have "time to kill". Time is at a premium for me, these days...

True, he isn't using a progressive press. But he has a steel sizing die...spraying his cases with a little Hornady one shot takes maybe 10 seconds.

Also, I'm curious why people say not to use Hornady One Shot on rifle cases. I use it exclusively on all my rifle cases, including 45-70, and it has always worked extremely well. I've never had a stuck case. Not even when I'm loading .223 on a progressive. Are you guys not spraying enough on your cases?

[JNunez23]

You do if you have steel dies. Heck, I lube even with my carbide dies because it makes my progressive run so much smoother. I've loaded almost 10k in the past few months...every one of them was lubed and because of that my press ran extremely smooth.

Agreed!

[CEDaytonaRydr]

Also, I'm curious why people say not to use Hornady One Shot on rifle cases. I use it exclusively on all my rifle cases, including 45-70, and it has always worked extremely well. I've never had a stuck case. Not even when I'm loading .223 on a progressive. Are you guys not spraying enough on your cases?

It's because you're using a progressive is why it works so well.

When loading single stage, the expantion is done on the return stroke after sizing, by an expanding ball. On a progressive, the expantion is done on the up-stroke of the powder-charging station using a conical expander. If using dies with an expanding ball, you have to lubricate the inside of the case neck, or the cases will stick. It's not necessary on a conical expander because you are not re-sizing the case neck with the exander inside the case.

he has a steel sizing die...spraying his cases with a little Hornady one shot takes maybe 10 seconds.

True, but after a while, the cost of the lube is going to exceed the differential between the cost of a carbide sizing die. It might take a while, but it will happen eventually.

There's a lot of ways to skin this cat but in the interest of helping the OP, I think it would be easier and more cost effective if he just got the carbide die. Plus, it will take another step out of the process, thus making it easier for him. (my personal opinion)