What reloading NONOs do you do and does it work?

[stilly]

I just found that I can use small rifle primers instead of small pistol primers.

SO for my 40/9/380/38 I can now use small rifle. YAY!

What about powders? Anyone use borderline rifle powders for pistols? Like, can you use x.xgr of Reloader #7 in a 9mm or 44 mag with great results?

AND, is there ANYTHING better than H110 for 44 mag loads? What about those exotic powders? Norma? New ramshots and what not? Are those decent?

Just curious. I see that a LOT of reloaders tend to do the opposite of what they are told not to do. Or is it just me?

[CalTeacher]

I shoot lead through Glock barrels even though the errornet tells me not to do so.

I also am not afraid to go above published max loads for certain loads. I guess I've loaded long enough to realize that many companies are very conservative in their data. Lawyers...heh.

I don't clean primer pockets...ever. In fact I don't do anything that has no measurable positive effect on the quality of my ammunition.

I do curse the man who created .45 brass with small pistol primers.

I don't obsess about how new my used brass looks after tumbling.

I do calibrate my beam scale every single time I start loading, and I always dump the first thrown charge back into the hopper because it is always heavier than the rest.

[Zeke003]

I've used 2400 with better results for 44mag, but they aren't nearly as flashy as H110. N110 is supposed to be the "best" for 44mag.

[WILDMAN442]

I didnt know you could run SR in a pistol....

Maybe I can consolidate! Is there really not much of a difference?

Justin

[Whiterabbit]

I run fast rifle powder in my 460 (4198 and SR4759). Shoots way, way better than with fast pistol powder, and even better than slow pistol powder (H110, #9)



I might be inclined to try SR4759 in 44 mag when using a heavy lead gas checked bullet.

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I am considering trying a large rifle magnum primer in my 7x57. That is not a "do" on the no-no list, that is a "I'm thinking about trying it" on the no-no list.

[meaty-btz]

I use magnum LR primers in 8x57. Performance was inferior to with LR Primers. Don't know why. No signs of pressures in either case but the butt dyno.. or rather shoulder dyno said more felt recoil on the Large Rifle and magnum was much softer feeling with the same charge.

On the "lawyered loads". Started when the new peizo electric pressure sensors were first used. The discovered things going on inside that the older crush sensors could not detect. Namely a huge pressure spike on initial ignition that far exceeded the previously detected peak pressures. The reason being that this hyper-pressure event occurred to fast to be detected. However in the eyes of a lawyer that is something to be avoided. It wasn't a problem unless you had faulty brass as the spike was so short lived, we are talking nano-seconds here.

Loads were adjusted to compensate for this spike and avoid liability. Aka, now that they knew about it, it was a liability.

[mjmagee67]

I vacuum up my reloading area all the time, BUT I use a shop-vac and put 3 or 4 inches of water in it to keep the dust down and wet the powder down.

[lpspinner]

I don't remove the dry filter when wet vacuuming. Everything still works.

[CalTeacher]

I use magnum LR primers in 8x57. Performance was inferior to with LR Primers. Don't know why. No signs of pressures in either case but the butt dyno.. or rather shoulder dyno said more felt recoil on the Large Rifle and magnum was much softer feeling with the same charge.

On the "lawyered loads". Started when the new peizo electric pressure sensors were first used. The discovered things going on inside that the older crush sensors could not detect. Namely a huge pressure spike on initial ignition that far exceeded the previously detected peak pressures. The reason being that this hyper-pressure event occurred to fast to be detected. However in the eyes of a lawyer that is something to be avoided. It wasn't a problem unless you had faulty brass as the spike was so short lived, we are talking nano-seconds here.

Loads were adjusted to compensate for this spike and avoid liability. Aka, now that they knew about it, it was a liability.

Absolutely. I should also mention that there are certain loads where I'd never attempt a max charge. But there is still data that can be overly conservative depending upon which company is publishing it.

[the86d]

I have worked up and loaded Berry's 9mm plated cartridges with up to 5.8 grains of Unique.

I bought and used 55 grain factory seconds in 5.56mm with varying height cannelures, and lightly crimp them even if the cannelure isn't aligned.

I use 26.2 grains of Varget with 62 grain pulled bullets, 55 grain bullets, and 40 grain pulled V-MAX.

I have had primers that I did not know if they were Small Rifle, or Small pistol, and didn't care.

I even remove the tags from my mattresses, brush my teeth with non-Baking Soda base toothpaste, eat at buffets rated "B" in the window, and leave my computers on... oh, and I am NOT blind yet.

[Divernhunter]

I prefer H-110 for mag loads in my 357mag, 44mag and 454casull. I have tried others but the H-110 worked best over my chrono and accurate.

Use the house vacum to vacum up powder,primers(live and fired) and other than an a small pop now and again the vacum and I are still fine.
Never clean primer pockets.
Never crimp rifle rounds and have never had a problem.
Have some loads that are over max in the newer books that I have used for many years.
Use mag primers in all loads usually with no troubles.
Store ammo in the garage.
Use to store primers/powder in the garage for many years but now have room in the house.
Do not trim rifle brass very often. But I do not try to load it 25 times either.
Do not hand weight every powder charge in every load. I do weight all my hunting loads and even more now that I got an electronic measure/scale.
Tumble all brass with the old primers in them.
Reload while listening to the radio or watching TV on a all metal portable bench I made.

[lpspinner]

I think one think to mention here is.....

If you're new or unsure, don't follow what some of these people are doing. Remember, with this hobby, the worst that can happen is you kill yourself. So remember that.

I myself have done a lot no-no's, but I would never expect anyone to follow.

[Fishslayer]

I didnt know you could run SR in a pistol....

Maybe I can consolidate! Is there really not much of a difference?

Justin

Lots of guys were running SRP during the Great Primer Drought. I've been told there's not much difference but I will work up if need be. I mostly load light range fodder so I don't anticipate any problems if I have to go that way, especially with small primer .45ACP brass.

No idea if true, but I understand SRP are a bit harder than SPP so if you've tweaked your springs they could cause problems?

[lpspinner]

I personally think that SRP would be great with SP .45's. However, iirc, the SRP has a slightly harder cup so if your hammer is lightened, then you may not be able to detonate the primer.

[stilly]

Wow. There are a lot more things going on then I had thought. Now I wonder why that guy from the vatican was snooping around my yard last night...

The powders seem like a good place to explore.

Ever since I started reading on how to use quickload I discovered that it will spit out "results" for just about any powder in just about any load. SO I wonder what my reloader 7 would do in a 44 mag load and I wonder what some of those other powders would do in... Next time I am on it I will plug them in and see what happens.

I personally think that these companies should really NOT censor a lot of this information. They claim that things are ABSOLUTE but the truth is that there are so many variables that it is hardly absolute all of the time. It bugs me and I have started doing things that others have done and I get flamed or laughed at but hey it WORKS and some folks are just too closed minded to figure it out or give it a try.

Yeah you can kill yourself. I have over 100 logged dives (not bragging) and just about all of those I could have been killed on but I have not dived now for about 3 years but heck, even in DIVING the things that were said to do and for what reasons WERE ABSOLUTE. And ya know what? They WERE. One thing that was never mentioned though was shooting a gun underwater. Apparently water does not absorb sound like it absorbs oil. 9mm is LOUD even at 90 feet under... Anyways, these are interesting things. I use a shop vac also to suck up powder and dust and whatever spiders I can find, I am hoping for it to go off and fry them one day... Prolly won't though. heh. Then I will be hoping for a new shopvac. A mosquito landed on my arm the other night and I got mad and smacked him and then put him in a 2400 load for the 44 mag as he was trying to figure out what just happened and later on I shot him out at the indoor range. That will teach him...

What about mixing powders? Anyone ever done that? Or is there really nothing to be gotten from that? Like, maybe I want the boom of a 23gr H-110 with a 10' flame from 7gr of Blue Dot that was packed on the top of a compressed load so that it does not mix much... No? (now THAt would be cool to make 2 stage propellants.)
Hmmm, I bet that was how they got those bullets to curve around things in that movie WANTED.