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  • drkphibr
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2461

    Identify this powder type

    I'm trying to identify this powder. As you can see from the picture, it's a small ball powder with a shine to it (W231?). The mechanical pencil is for size reference. This entire amount of powder is 30.7gr (more sizing reference). Thanks in advance.
    Last edited by drkphibr; 02-17-2012, 9:32 PM.
  • #2
    Chief-7700
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3382

    Where did the powder come from?

    XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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    • #3
      drkphibr
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2010
      • 2461

      Reloads

      Reloads for 50AE. 300gr copper plated FN bullet, 30.7gr of powder. Trying to identify the powder to ensure the load is correct/safe (worst case I'll replace them all with 2400).

      I know for sure it's not any of the following:

      W231
      H-Varget
      IMR 4895
      IMR 4195
      IMR 3031
      H110
      Bullseye
      2400 (but it's somewhat close)

      These grains are very round, glossy and glide around almost like silk. Looks like it would be a dream to measure, so now I'm beyond curious and entering the quest stage of having to know what this is.

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      • #4
        XDRoX
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 4420

        Looks like TAC, but so do a lot of other powders. If this is a game, then it may be fun. But if you are going to load it based on someone's guess you may blow up your gun.
        Chris
        <----Rimfire Addict


        Originally posted by Oceanbob
        Get a DILLON...

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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          Originally posted by drkphibr
          Reloads for 50AE. 300gr copper plated FN bullet, 30.7gr of powder. Trying to identify the powder to ensure the load is correct/safe (worst case I'll replace them all with 2400).

          I know for sure it's not any of the following:

          W231
          H-Varget
          IMR 4895
          IMR 4195
          IMR 3031
          H110
          Bullseye
          2400 (but it's somewhat close)

          These grains are very round, glossy and glide around almost like silk. Looks like it would be a dream to measure, so now I'm beyond curious and entering the quest stage of having to know what this is.
          I can photograph some TAC later tonight to compare if you think it may help.
          Chris
          <----Rimfire Addict


          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          Get a DILLON...

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          • #6
            drkphibr
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2461

            TAC

            Originally posted by XDRoX
            I can photograph some TAC later tonight to compare if you think it may help.
            Great, I'd like to see how close it is. Even better of you can put a pencil tip (or something else common/known size) in the pic to give me a better idea of size. Thanks.

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            • #7
              CSACANNONEER
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              • Dec 2006
              • 44093

              Might be bulk powder and not "canister grade". If you don't know exactly what it is and where it came from, you might want to have a lab do some burn tests for you before trying to use it or duplicate it.
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              • #8
                bubbapug1
                Calguns Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 7958

                Its probably #7 or H110. #7 is not as flashy, but drives every bit as fast as H110. Weight it out and see what a similar load is in your reloading manual. That way you can peg the powder.
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                • #9
                  Chief-7700
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3382

                  Originally posted by drkphibr
                  Reloads for 50AE. 300gr copper plated FN bullet, 30.7gr of powder. Trying to identify the powder to ensure the load is correct/safe (worst case I'll replace them all with 2400).

                  I know for sure it's not any of the following:

                  W231
                  H-Varget
                  IMR 4895
                  IMR 4195
                  IMR 3031
                  H110
                  Bullseye
                  2400 (but it's somewhat close)

                  These grains are very round, glossy and glide around almost like silk. Looks like it would be a dream to measure, so now I'm beyond curious and entering the quest stage of having to know what this is.
                  Contact the reloader and find out. My rule of thumb if I not reload it and can't identify the powder, will reuse the components and burn the powder.
                  Like fire anyway.

                  XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                  IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                  NRA Certified RSO
                  "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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                  • #10
                    xrMike
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Feb 2006
                    • 7841

                    OP, w231 isn't a ball powder, so it not be that.

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                    • #11
                      XDRoX
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4420

                      I'll have a picture up in 5.
                      Chris
                      <----Rimfire Addict


                      Originally posted by Oceanbob
                      Get a DILLON...

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                      • #12
                        XDRoX
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4420

                        Yours


                        TAC


                        Doesn't look the same. I'm changing my guess to 748 no that I can see just how small it is. The problem is I'm plum out of 748. 748 is really black though from what I remember. I may have some. I'll go check.
                        Chris
                        <----Rimfire Addict


                        Originally posted by Oceanbob
                        Get a DILLON...

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                        • #13
                          XDRoX
                          Veteran Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 4420

                          I just found some 748. Picture in 5.
                          Chris
                          <----Rimfire Addict


                          Originally posted by Oceanbob
                          Get a DILLON...

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                          • #14
                            XDRoX
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 4420

                            Yours:


                            748


                            Damn. Your powder looks finer than 748 That stuff must meter like water.

                            Sorry, did my best.
                            Chris
                            <----Rimfire Addict


                            Originally posted by Oceanbob
                            Get a DILLON...

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                            • #15
                              Chief-7700
                              Veteran Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 3382

                              Guys if you don't have the container that the powder in question came in then you just guessing and that is a bad thing to do! Since we are discussing things that love to go BOOM!
                              Chief

                              XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                              IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                              NRA Certified RSO
                              "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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