First 6.5 creed load

[longrange1]

[kriller134]

Thanks for all of the info longrange. I really appreciate it and thanks to everyone else that has contributed to this thread.

[NorCalFocus]

[kriller134]

I went out shooting today and got my scope dialed in. I shot some factory 140 eld match and got vertical stringing. What would cause that?

[longrange1]

if thats the first few rounds in a new barrel its the barrel settling in.

need a little more info...
factory rifle? new gun?
off a bench? bags?
prone? off a bipod?
are you pretty new to this?

the more info the better.

[kriller134]

if thats the first few rounds in a new barrel its the barrel settling in.



need a little more info...

factory rifle? new gun?

off a bench? bags?

prone? off a bipod?

are you pretty new to this?



the more info the better.

[longrange1]

i shoot 35 rounds at a time through a medium palma and remington varmint contour barrels and do not have any stringing...im not sure the contour of the barrel on the stealth but im pretty sure its as heavy..or more so...than a remington varmint and im also pretty sure you did not put 35 rounds in one string through it.

so that leaves a few things...check and torque the action screws and all scope screws.
check to make sure the barrel is not touching any where on the stock...if i remember correctly the stealth is in a chassis so doubtful the barrel is touching but check anyway.

next is you...make sure your mounting the gun the same every shot...also...and i see this a lot...make sure your not "DRIVING" the rifle...this is a bad habit that is hard to get rid of if let go to long...as are all bad habits.

DRIVING the rifle is when your making small adjustments with your cheek...shoulder...hands ect and it throws you out of your natural point of aim.

so take the string you have pictured...im going to guess it started low and went high so im also going to guess your cheek pressure changed(increased)from shot to shot...like i say im guessing because i was not there to see it.

also the reloader powders are double base powders and as they get hotter they shoot faster so if your barrel/chamber was hot and you chambered a round and let it sit before firing it can and will cause stringing...
BUT...if you shot that at 100yds its not all heat causing it.

if you dont have a known GOOD shooter to watch you shoot and access your shooting or have the time/money to take a class or two the next best thing is to video yourself as you shoot then watch the video at home.

[kriller134]

i shoot 35 rounds at a time through a medium palma and remington varmint contour barrels and do not have any stringing...im not sure the contour of the barrel on the stealth but im pretty sure its as heavy..or more so...than a remington varmint and im also pretty sure you did not put 35 rounds in one string through it.



so that leaves a few things...check and torque the action screws and all scope screws.

check to make sure the barrel is not touching any where on the stock...if i remember correctly the stealth is in a chassis so doubtful the barrel is touching but check anyway.



next is you...make sure your mounting the gun the same every shot...also...and i see this a lot...make sure your not "DRIVING" the rifle...this is a bad habit that is hard to get rid of if let go to long...as are all bad habits.



DRIVING the rifle is when your making small adjustments with your cheek...shoulder...hands ect and it throws you out of your natural point of aim.



so take the string you have pictured...im going to guess it started low and went high so im also going to guess your cheek pressure changed(increased)from shot to shot...like i say im guessing because i was not there to see it.



also the reloader powders are double base powders and as they get hotter they shoot faster so if your barrel/chamber was hot and you chambered a round and let it sit before firing it can and will cause stringing...

BUT...if you shot that at 100yds its not all heat causing it.



if you dont have a known GOOD shooter to watch you shoot and access your shooting or have the time/money to take a class or two the next best thing is to video yourself as you shoot then watch the video at home.

[longrange1]

i didnt mean it as an insult im just trying to help you out...i know about bad habits because im self taught and had a bunch of bad habits and they were VERY hard to get rid of...and honestly...i still catch myself doing a few of them every now and then but most times i catch myself and can correct and adjust.

one is what i call laying on the rifle...its actually a heavy cheek weld and will cause you to shoot over your target...the other is trying to drive the rifle with my shoulder...if i dont catch it before the trigger breaks i know exactly what i did when i miss and usually end it with an F word LOL!!

if you have the money take a class....its better to learn,catch and fix any bad habits early than to try and fix them later.

[kriller134]

i didnt mean it as an insult im just trying to help you out...i know about bad habits because im self taught and had a bunch of bad habits and they were VERY hard to get rid of...and honestly...i still catch myself doing a few of them every now and then but most times i catch myself and can correct and adjust.

one is what i call laying on the rifle...its actually a heavy cheek weld and will cause you to shoot over your target...the other is trying to drive the rifle with my shoulder...if i dont catch it before the trigger breaks i know exactly what i did when i miss and usually end it with an F word LOL!!

if you have the money take a class....its better to learn,catch and fix any bad habits early than to try and fix them later.

[LWP]

I used to get the same ring on the bullet when I would seat in virgin Lapua SR brass. Two things stopped that ring, even after the brass was opened up with an oversized mandrel(.264"). The first thing was to dip the bottom 1/2" of the bullet,2-3 times, in Imperial Dry lube. And wiping off the base and boat tail of the bullet before seating.The second thing was to sacrifice one of my bullets to be lapped into the seater stem with 800 grit compound. I use a .290" bushing with my Redding F/L bushing die, ending up with 1 1/2 thousandth under bullet dia. I have switched the locking ring with a Lee made. Lee Die Locking Ring 7/8"-14 Thread Pack of 3 so as to help self center the brass for better run out while being resized. It works nicely. Good luck

[NorCalFocus]

kriller134, what are you trying to achieve right now with these loads? Whats your goal? Are you trying to find a load for your rifle or are you trying to just get some trigger time in? How'd you come up with this reciepe for this load?

I ask because while it does seem like you could use some more practice and/or training, we don't even know if your rifle likes this load. There is another method of finding a load for your rifle that doesn't require shooting groups. But to use that method, your reloading practices need to be pretty spot on.

[kriller134]

kriller134, what are you trying to achieve right now with these loads? Whats your goal? Are you trying to find a load for your rifle or are you trying to just get some trigger time in? How'd you come up with this reciepe for this load?

I ask because while it does seem like you could use some more practice and/or training, we don't even know if your rifle likes this load. There is another method of finding a load for your rifle that doesn't require shooting groups. But to use that method, your reloading practices need to be pretty spot on.

[NorCalFocus]

http://www.65guys.com/10-round-load-development-ladder-test/

This might be a better choice for you to find a load for your gun without shooting groups for now.

[kriller134]

http://www.65guys.com/10-round-load-development-ladder-test/

This might be a better choice for you to find a load for your gun without shooting groups for now.