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  • #46
    Raven mach
    Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 195

    Originally posted by superdave50
    Can you post a pic of the case/die when it stops?


    I don't know how to post pics. Lame I know. I'd say 1/4 of the case is sticking out of the die gen it binds up. BUT I did not lube the inside of the die

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    • #47
      Raven mach
      Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 195

      Originally posted by TexasJackKin
      Where are you located? Seems like you've got a dozen or so folks trying to help you, someone might be close enough to have a look.....
      I'm in north Stockton. I took my press off to try and figure out how to reinforce the lame computer desk I'm working with. That partial wood stuff really isn't up to the task of the press

      You are right. I did get a message from a fellow about a hour and a half from me offering some help.its a little distance and I don't like bothering folks but I may have to go listen and take pointers from him. Very generous offer and I'd like to learn what I can.

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      • #48
        Lead Waster
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Sep 2010
        • 16650

        Well you are addressing the desk. I'm wondering if in fact the case WOULD work, but since it's new to you, you might not know how hard it should be to actually resize the case. I mean, it might be the case that it is just going to be hard to resize the case and with a sturdy table you might realize oh.. the case is not stuck, it is just that resizing it takes X amount of effort. However, we don't want the case to get stuck either.

        You could video the press in action and upload to youtube, might get some more evaluation with that.

        For pictures, I used to use photobucket, but they made it hard to share pics. But I think even if you do upload to photobucket and add the link, others can log into photobucket and once logged in, can see the photo.

        Otherwise, in general, you have to get the photo online somewhere, then use the yellow icon that looks like a picture of a mountain and sun, then you paste in the link to the photo and it shows up here.

        Let us know when the desk is sturdy.

        I think if you decide to just try "brute force" it is best to leave the depriming stuff out of the die, that way if it is truly stuck, you can use the hole in the die to knock the stuck case out with a rod.
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        • #49
          Red9
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 2900

          Originally posted by Raven mach
          First off,I have a tool that is supposed to work. Second I was at the store and they said they didn't have any

          Also I had mentioned I took the deprimer out and it still does the same thing. So I'd guess that says it's not 'pressure' building up. Also the neck is a much bigger hole that the air shouldn't be airtight anyway? I dunno

          Yeah I'll buy a full auto loader.. any other good ideas? I guess there's always one,was bound to find you eventually!
          So, new dies, new unfired round and it still doesnt fit? Getting stuck mid case? I say just call the die company. Most companies are pretty good at customer service. Seems like you have a issue with the die maybe? Also the press should be securely mounted. I had issues with my first die set, Dillon set. Bought a set of Redding dies and never had any issues since.

          I deprime with a lee deprime die, then Dillon 550 running full length resize, then neck resize, Lee quick trim cases to spec. Then into the tumbler. I use home brew lube for the cases. Also just buy a 1/4" drill bit, 1/4" x 20 tap, 1/4 x 2 or 3 bolt, 3/8 washer, 1/4 washer. You need that for stuck cases....
          Never enough reloading stuff

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          • #50
            Raven mach
            Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 195

            Originally posted by Lead Waster
            Well you are addressing the desk. I'm wondering if in fact the case WOULD work, but since it's new to you, you might not know how hard it should be to actually resize the case. I mean, it might be the case that it is just going to be hard to resize the case and with a sturdy table you might realize oh.. the case is not stuck, it is just that resizing it takes X amount of effort. However, we don't want the case to get stuck either.

            You could video the press in action and upload to youtube, might get some more evaluation with that.

            For pictures, I used to use photobucket, but they made it hard to share pics. But I think even if you do upload to photobucket and add the link, others can log into photobucket and once logged in, can see the photo.

            Otherwise, in general, you have to get the photo online somewhere, then use the yellow icon that looks like a picture of a mountain and sun, then you paste in the link to the photo and it shows up here.

            Let us know when the desk is sturdy.

            I think if you decide to just try "brute force" it is best to leave the depriming stuff out of the die, that way if it is truly stuck, you can use the hole in the die to knock the stuck case out with a rod.


            This right here, I agree with all of that. Correct,I do NOT know the force it requires. It just seemed very hard vs what I've seen in videos however that is almost impossible to gauge. And yes I agree I need to get a vid or something you are correct. I'm trying to figure out how to brace this cheapo desk to put more force

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            • #51
              Raven mach
              Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 195

              Originally posted by dkonrai
              So, new dies, new unfired round and it still doesnt fit? Getting stuck mid case? I say just call the die company. Most companies are pretty good at customer service. Seems like you have a issue with the die maybe? Also the press should be securely mounted. I had issues with my first die set, Dillon set. Bought a set of Redding dies and never had any issues since.

              I deprime with a lee deprime die, then Dillon 550 running full length resize, then neck resize, Lee quick trim cases to spec. Then into the tumbler. I use home brew lube for the cases. Also just buy a 1/4" drill bit, 1/4" x 20 tap, 1/4 x 2 or 3 bolt, 3/8 washer, 1/4 washer. You need that for stuck cases....


              Yes and no. I have no new unfired brass. I have once fired federal. The case I stuck in there was new and live just to see if it sorta sticks in the same spot. I didn't want to start forcing that round.

              I'm ASSUMING I have a die issue but didn't want to blame it since I have no real experience and assumed it's me being dumb

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              • #52
                Raven mach
                Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 195

                Okay fellas, here it goes. I just took the press outside on a study bench. Lubed the inside of the sizing did,and the case,pulled the deprimer pin out and sent the cas through.. boy do I feel like a idiot. Case went right in and out and sized. Ugh, so it was my fault the whole time. I kind of figured it was! Thank you guys for bearing with me

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                • #53
                  superdave50
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2017
                  • 813

                  Well, at least you figured it out.
                  One thing you can do when you get a little cash is buy a tool stand from HF and mount your press on it ( you'll need to add a board on top) or check Craigslist for used workbench or table that would work

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                  • #54
                    Raven mach
                    Member
                    • Nov 2015
                    • 195

                    Yep,I'm dealing with very limited space right now so I was using a desk that's already here but I definitely see the error of this now. Pretty ignorant but I guess it's half the battle.

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                    • #55
                      baih777
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                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5680

                      Glad you figured it out. Just a learning curve.
                      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
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                      • #56
                        NorCalFocus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 3913

                        Dumb question about depriming

                        Originally posted by Raven mach
                        Yep,I'm dealing with very limited space right now so I was using a desk that's already here but I definitely see the error of this now. Pretty ignorant but I guess it's half the battle.


                        I work in a small area as well. I built a stand for my press from 1" thick solid hardwood. I picked up a stair tread from Lowes for $30 cut out the shapes from it and glued and screwed it together. Clamp it down to my desk and go to town.



                        Last edited by NorCalFocus; 01-17-2018, 9:05 PM.

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                        • #57
                          Raven mach
                          Member
                          • Nov 2015
                          • 195

                          I'm thinking on either getting some 2x2 or so and screwing it in the corners of the desk to strengthen joints then doing a stair step screwed right to the top on one half of the desk. I did however want to try and not obstruct the whole thing but I want to mount my powder measure and case trimmer also. Or just start over with a new bench

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                          • #58
                            divingin
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 2522

                            Originally posted by superdave50
                            Well, at least you figured it out.
                            One thing you can do when you get a little cash is buy a tool stand from HF and mount your press on it ( you'll need to add a board on top) or check Craigslist for used workbench or table that would work
                            I was in the same situation as the OP for a while - actually, worse off: when I first got back into shooting, I was initially C-clamping the presses to the dining room table. That changed to a cheap office desk; the top wasn't particularly sturdy (5/8" softwood), and it was a little smaller than it needed to be for 2 presses and all the other crap that ends up on the bench to be at hand.

                            I eventually found a workshop bench on a neighborhood forum for a hundred bucks (a little wear, but unused.) It's a little longer than ideal, but works well enough for what it needs to do. The 1-3/4" butcher block style top is plenty sturdy for the presses, which were a simple drill and bolt job to mount. The upside is there is a ton of room for other stuff between the presses.

                            You could build a bench for your space fairly easily assuming you can find a decent top.

                            Glad you figured out your sizing problem, OP. Figured it was going to end up being along those lines.

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                            • #59
                              Raven mach
                              Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 195

                              Originally posted by divingin
                              I was in the same situation as the OP for a while - actually, worse off: when I first got back into shooting, I was initially C-clamping the presses to the dining room table. That changed to a cheap office desk; the top wasn't particularly sturdy (5/8" softwood), and it was a little smaller than it needed to be for 2 presses and all the other crap that ends up on the bench to be at hand.

                              I eventually found a workshop bench on a neighborhood forum for a hundred bucks (a little wear, but unused.) It's a little longer than ideal, but works well enough for what it needs to do. The 1-3/4" butcher block style top is plenty sturdy for the presses, which were a simple drill and bolt job to mount. The upside is there is a ton of room for other stuff between the presses.

                              You could build a bench for your space fairly easily assuming you can find a decent top.

                              Glad you figured out your sizing problem, OP. Figured it was going to end up being along those lines.
                              Butcher block tops are awesome! But sadly,I do not have one haha. My ideas are to purhaps but a sheet of wood to screw on to the soft desk top and then screw 2x2 into all the joint corners, or just forget it and think about a different desk.

                              Yeah I'm happy it was just my ignorance holding me up haha. Now at least I know why I wasn't getting any results.

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                              • #60
                                Lead Waster
                                I need a LIFE!!
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 16650

                                So it was the desk?

                                You can slap together a small footprint workbench/press stand with 2x4s and some plywood. My 550b sits on a small table thing I originally made to hold recycling bins.

                                Other operations I carry out on a different table.
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