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  • #16
    Fishslayer
    In Memoriam
    • Jan 2010
    • 13035

    Originally posted by Divernhunter
    I best tool is the Dillon Super Swager for removing the crimp or stakes.
    ^^^ This. If you're going to be reloading any quantity of .223/5.56 it's the gear you want.
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    • #17
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      As others have said those are the infamous crimped primer pockets. A circular ring is stamped around the pocket which displaces the metal & prevents the primer from popping out. I use a countersink bit in a power drill to cut it. Spinning it for half a second is all it takes.



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      • #18
        JMP
        Internet Warrior
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Feb 2012
        • 17056

        I prefer to use a powered chamfer/deburring tool with about a 90 degree head; that lets the primer guide right in. That's an alternative to swaging. Also, I do really like the RCBS hand primer, but it's not made well for changing out the shellholder. I'd recommend getting a dedicated shellholder for each priming tool, or get the universal tool for your smaller rifle cases. I use the universal for .223-.308 size bases, then keep a dedicated primers for Lapua and CheyTac brass. Then, keep a dedicated feeder tray for each type of primer you use. Then, you are ready to prime just about anything without any fussing around.

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        • #19
          stilly
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jul 2009
          • 10685

          Originally posted by LeadFarmer74
          Wolf gold is 100% crimped. So from the picture below your brass is on the left and what you want is on the right.

          Do you realize what you just said? You posted a picture that someone took and said that was the WRONG way to do it, and you told him that was how he needed to do it...

          Although I agree, use a countersink bit from HF in the 1/2" size or whatever and just touch the pockets with it for a second or so...
          Last edited by stilly; 12-15-2016, 1:32 AM.
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          • #20
            roysroyce
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 15

            Thanks guys, great info... I don't have a swag tool and found some (JMP listed above) that you COULD use an RCBS debur/Chamfer tool. I used this w/ the first 15 cases that I'll be reloading. It worked perfectly. I just gave it some light turns in the primer pocket and it provided a nice bevel in the pocket. Complete difference when putting the primer in. (seated like a champ).

            I will probably pick up one of those dillion swag tools.

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            • #21
              LeadFarmer74
              Veteran Member
              • May 2015
              • 3105

              Originally posted by stilly
              Do you realize what you just said? You posted a picture that someone took and said that was the WRONG way to do it, and you told him that was how he needed to do it...
              I do realize that but I couldn't find a comparison picture with a crimp vs removed. So although it wasn't perfect I think the point still got across.
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              • #22
                roysroyce
                Junior Member
                • Dec 2016
                • 15

                I did get the idea LeadFarmer and Stilly... but glad you brought it up Stilly... I took a second look and now I see/realize that I have to be careful not to take too much off of the pocket when I'm ridding crimps.

                How might I know how much is too much? I'm guessing if I took off A LOT then eventually the primer would seat, but also guessing there's a middle ground where I could take off too much and the primer would still seat.

                what issues might I incur if this happens? Squib?

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                • #23
                  wbunning
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 808

                  And remember-- you only have to ream/swage the primer pockets ONCE on your brass. You are not going to re-crimp the PP in your own reloading process.

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                  • #24
                    AandO
                    Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 449

                    For what it is worth. I only reload range pick ups that do have a crimp. This is my assurance of the history of the brass.
                    .
                    I prefer having to decrimp....

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                    • #25
                      roysroyce
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 15

                      Good notes guys... AandO/wBunning... True that if it's crimped then I can be assured it's only once fired... (or FAIRLY sure)

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                      • #26
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        Originally posted by LeadFarmer74
                        I do realize that but I couldn't find a comparison picture with a crimp vs removed. So although it wasn't perfect I think the point still got across.
                        LoL. okay.

                        I ALMOST PCPAINTED it in an attempt to FIFY. But then I thought, maybe there is something here I am not aware of. LoL.
                        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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