Reloading Primer Seating issue

[roysroyce]

Hey guys, I just started reloading...
I've cleaned, de-primed, semi-resized (all 8 223's I've done so far were within 1.740 to 1.76) and am now seating the primers.
I've done 8 total (total in my reloading career)
I'm using a RCBS handheld primer tool that came w/ my rock chucker supreme kit.
First 8 seemed to work ok no issues and the primers seated correctly.
Did 8 yesterday, and started today and the first two I did didn't seem to seat correctly, almost like they tried to seat diagonally.

See picture link... Thoughts? As far as resistance goes, you can tell by the pic I had to press fairly hard to get it to seat like that. So it didn't feel normal either (normal according to my first 8).

Appreciate any expertise...

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/ebYk186tmhBbZLPrlkqJa2MDvV4Zw0PJohNpun13IPt

[LeadFarmer74]

Did you swag the crimps from the primer pockets? If not the primers are hard to install and won't seat properly.

[dwalker]

they flipped in the priming tool and went in sideways. Pay more attention to how your holding the priming tool, too much angle or a dip when you pick up a piece of brass can cause the primer to flip

[OpenSightsOnly]

Check the rod that pushes the primer - make sure that the flat surface of the rod is the one that is pushing the primer not the "domed" surface.

[Barbarosa]

Make sure you have the correct size primer plunger rod and primer sleeve inserted.

[roysroyce]

Thanks guys...
Crimps... I've been hearing about those w/ the 5.56 and figured that if my case said 223 REM on it that I was safe... is that good enough? I did a quick search to try to figure out, "what a crimped case, de-primed" would look like. I'm still a little foggy, but there were no crimps on the case that I can see. I have other cases same manufacturer (that I picked up) and I don't really see a "crimp" in them.

Angled primer? I hear ya, I thought the same thing, so I tried to do my best to hold it upright on the second case, not saying that wasn't a factor, but I'll keep that note for future reloads.

Primer pin (domed vs. flat) checked that... not sure what the "domed" side is, but the primer tool is pushing up the primer on a flat pin.

I did another case, and the primer went in easy (as the others)... could I be missing something w/ the crimps? Are they easy to spot?

Also... I don't plan on shooting these "ugly seated primers" but for the sake of learning tolerances... do we agree I shouldn't shoot those? Toss em? De-prime?

[roysroyce]

Can you tell if this case is crimped?

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/tClD35B11mS7cukY75vj9BcooK6sne7sxomux4zzgtz

Using Small Rifle CCI Primers and the small rifle pin / setup (white) in my RCBS hand primer tool.

[LeadFarmer74]

Can you tell if this case is crimped?

https://www.amazon.com/photos/share/tClD35B11mS7cukY75vj9BcooK6sne7sxomux4zzgtz

Using Small Rifle CCI Primers and the small rifle pin / setup (white) in my RCBS hand primer tool.

Wolf gold is 100% crimped. So from the picture below your brass is on the left and what you want is on the right.

[roysroyce]

LeadFarmer... SO MUCH THANKS! and also the rest of you... i guess I couldn't make out what crimp was based on google images.

so image on the right looks like it has an inverted bevel... is that what I should look for?

And the fact that you told me all WOLF is crimped.

[baih777]

Crimped, that ring around the primer pocket is what you look for.and yes. 223 rem cases might have been crimped.

[Divernhunter]

I have a bunch of Rem 223 nickel cases and they had crimped/staked primers. I have run into this with some other cases also that had a 223 headstamp. I best tool is the Dillon Super Swager for removing the crimp or stakes.

Some brass will not have a full crimp. Some the primers are staked in several spots. Does the same as a full crimp and needs to be removed also before seating the primers.

[roysroyce]

Much appreciated everyone... this was my first post in this forum, awesome experience with how fast I was helped!!!

[santacruzgunner]

Ya you better just add primer pockets to your process. I just assume that they are all crimped. I use the lyman hand tool wish i had something with power though.

[baih777]

Ya you better just add primer pockets to your process. I just assume that they are all crimped. I use the lyman hand tool wish i had something with power though.

See If you can remove the swager from the handle. Use a variable speed drill. Use zipties to hold the trigger.

[mannyp]

Get a Dillon super swage if you have a lot of wolf cases to swage. If you are not doing a lot, there is an rcbs swager die that costs around 30+. It will be slower but it will do the job if you're not doing hundreds of cases.


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