Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Primer question

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Julios
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 120

    Primer question

    Sup guys, im new to reloading, i have 2 reloading books that i been reading, and im trying to follow the instructions till i get more comfortable,and i see that for the cal. im doing one its asking for win wsp and other cci, would that matter which brand of primer i go with or its all the same?
    also with powder, one book its asking few more .gr on one then the other,same brand of power for the same .cal...
    or maybe i should just stick to one book lol...
  • #2
    tanks
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4038

    In most cases primers do not matter except some firearms do not like harder primers and will not ignite them.

    As far as powder measurements go, the reason for the variance is most likely the type of firearm device that is used to test the powder.

    In either case I'd start from low and go up in .1 grain increments.
    "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
    "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

    Comment

    • #3
      Julios
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 120

      Ok thanks! It's been hard to find cci500 local and there's few times that I seen rem. ,so I guess I can pick whatever I can find and try then..

      Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

      Comment

      • #4
        jericho89
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 1129

        as stated primers are fairly universal with load data. if you church the two diff books they probably have different pressures with the various loads. again as stated probably tested with different gun specs.

        Comment

        • #5
          Julios
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 120

          Ok,thanks.. I'm gonna start reloading soon..

          Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

          Comment

          • #6
            PatC415
            • Nov 2014
            • 979

            Older books will have higher min and max load data. Seems like all the newer books, have reduced their loads...probably for liability reasons, and ALL the books vary.
            If you are NOT loading near max, you will probably not see any difference with primers changes.
            Remember, always start LOW and work up, with ANY component change.
            Have fun and load SAFE!!
            It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

            Comment

            • #7
              Julios
              Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 120

              Yea, for sure I'll start low,I'll start reloading 9mm and .40 ,maybe later .223..
              Thanks for the info!.

              Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk

              Comment

              • #8
                Bill Steele
                Calguns Addict
                • Sep 2010
                • 5028

                Originally posted by PatC415
                Older books will have higher min and max load data. Seems like all the newer books, have reduced their loads...probably for liability reasons, and ALL the books vary.
                If you are NOT loading near max, you will probably not see any difference with primers changes.
                Remember, always start LOW and work up, with ANY component change.
                Have fun and load SAFE!!
                I used to think that (why the max charge weights seem to be shrinking in newer edition books), but the more I read on the subject, the more convinced I am it is more about the sensitivity of the measuring equipment. Better instrumentation allows them to see more, they see some things they don't like and they back down.

                For my part, I like the answers in the older books, so I don't buy the newer ones..

                On the primers, I use them all interchangeably (CCI, Federal, Winchester, Remington, etc. etc.). That is not to say they are the same, many are wildly different from their cousins, but for a given load, they are generally interchangeable.

                If you have a revolver with lighter springs, or a striker fired gun with a light striker spring, Federal are what you want with Winchester a close second. Federal's use a compound which is a little more volatile and coupled with their soft cup material are easier to set off. Winchester is in the middle, not too soft, not too hard, not quite as easy to ignite than Federal's, but usually still easy enough. CCI has a harder cup, but works fine in less modified guns, very high quality control, so less manufacturing glitches. It goes on and on. Most will go bang, most of the time though.
                When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

                Comment

                • #9
                  Julios
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 120

                  ok cool,good info!.. been too few online forums and youtube vids, it seens people prefer cci over others,i was just wondering if it was because better brand,maybe better quality, or maybe cheaper,i bought few boxes of rem. for few more .cents more then cci,they didnt have any thats why i when with rem.

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    John Joseph
                    Banned
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 789

                    Unless you're loading shotshells, primer generally aren't specific to a metallic load. Even many high powered match rifle shooters will tell you they couldn't find an appreciable difference between regular and "match" priimers. Of course some loads wil require magnum primers and some actions will do better with harder or softer primers(manufacturers have reputations for making hard or soft primers.)

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      Julios
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 120

                      im just following the book and go has simple it can be for now,till i get the hang of it and little more hands on and reading..
                      i have another question, its not relative to my first..
                      i have glocks, i keep reading that glocks wont do good with reloads or cant reload brass shot from a glock, its that 100% correct?

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        stilly
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 10685

                        Originally posted by Julios
                        im just following the book and go has simple it can be for now,till i get the hang of it and little more hands on and reading..
                        i have another question, its not relative to my first..
                        i have glocks, i keep reading that glocks wont do good with reloads or cant reload brass shot from a glock, its that 100% correct?
                        100%? No. It is not true at all...

                        The answer is also going to take more than three lines...

                        As for the books, consider them mostly guides...

                        Except the BoLee. Thou shalt NOT take thy BoLee lightly...
                        Last edited by stilly; 08-30-2016, 12:01 AM.
                        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Julios
                          Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 120

                          ok..

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            ejhc11
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2010
                            • 1214

                            If you are doing AR15 reloading on 223, buy primers of WSR or CCI #41, not the regular CCI #400 small rifle primers.

                            The CCI #400 is too soft for auto loading rifles and could cause a possible slam fire in ARs.

                            Comment

                            • #15
                              Julios
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 120

                              yea ar15.. good to know,thanks!

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              UA-8071174-1