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  • #16
    JMP
    Internet Warrior
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Feb 2012
    • 17056

    Originally posted by melliw
    After speacing to the seller, he recommended using a Redding FL Small base sizing die.
    You'd want to do it with the Redding Body Only die and that may work, depending on the problem.



    Do note that with cases that are loaded to capacity (commonly 308), this can compress the powder and exert an upward force on the projectile to the point the neck tension breaks.

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    • #17
      xfer42
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2007
      • 709

      Ive done it. I wouldnt recommend it though.

      I had about 1200 rounds of .223 that were reloaded on a Load Master. About 1 in 10 would stick in the chamber. I noticed I could bump the shoulder back more on a Dillon 650 and they would run perfect through all my rifles.

      I took an old .223 die, dropped an end mill through the top to widen it out a tad, placed a steel pipe over the die for a blast shield and cranked away.

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      • #18
        stilly
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jul 2009
        • 10685

        Originally posted by melliw
        I have some once fired 308 LC brass that I ran through a dillon on dillon dies. Afternloading the ammo, i found that it it would only fire through a semi-auto and not a bolt action. After speacing to the seller, he recommended using a Redding FL Small base sizing die.

        I have used the die on what few empty cases I had left and they all feed now. It seemed that the base of the brass was still to large after running it through the dillon. Would anyone here fun any of the loaded brass through the sizing die?
        You know it dawned on me. Who taught you how to reload? Did you start on a progressive? After this ordeal, I would suggest slowing down. I know absolutely NOTHING about your reloading life, but if you started on a progressive...

        You need to take it easy and slow and develop better habits I am thinking now. Look at this mess you made and now it seems that you have to try to fix it all. Meh, just pull the bullets, reuse the powder and resize properly.

        See how fast that Dillon makes you go?
        7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

        Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



        And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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        • #19
          ar15barrels
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jan 2006
          • 57163

          Originally posted by stilly
          You know it dawned on me. Who taught you how to reload? Did you start on a progressive? After this ordeal, I would suggest slowing down. I know absolutely NOTHING about your reloading life, but if you started on a progressive...

          You need to take it easy and slow and develop better habits I am thinking now. Look at this mess you made and now it seems that you have to try to fix it all. Meh, just pull the bullets, reuse the powder and resize properly.
          It's the internet reloading generation.
          They don't buy the actual reloading manuals because they can find the load data online for free.
          They watch youtube videos and think they are learning enough because they see the guy on the video doing it.
          They don't realize that there is a LOT of stuff going on that the video does not show.
          Since they don't buy the printed manuals, they completely miss the 50-75 pages of detailed descriptions on how to reload and how to setup reloading dies to PROPERLY size their cases to fit their gun.
          Randall Rausch

          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
          Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
          Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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          • #20
            VictorFranko
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2010
            • 13737

            Showed up at IDPA one Saturday morning and one of the RO's had a huge cast-like wrap on his hand/arm.
            I said "Jim (named changed to protect the foolish), WFT happened?"
            He replied that he was resizing some live 5.56 rounds and one of them blew his hand off."
            My shooting buddies and I were speechless.
            A few weeks later I saw his hand. While it was not blown off, parts of his fingers were and hand was a mess.

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            • #21
              jameshenry
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 327

              Use a case gauge to help in setting up your sizing die. The gauge will let you know if the sized case will fit in your chamber.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57163

                Originally posted by jameshenry
                Use a case gauge to help in setting up your sizing die. The gauge will let you know if the sized case will fit in your chamber.
                Only if your case gauge is matched to your chamber.
                I have seen case gauges that are WAY off of proper SAAMI specs, so much so that using ammo fitted to the gauge would cause excessive headspace in a gun that is within industry specs.
                Randall Rausch

                AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #23
                  stilly
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10685

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  It's the internet reloading generation.
                  They don't buy the actual reloading manuals because they can find the load data online for free.
                  They watch youtube videos and think they are learning enough because they see the guy on the video doing it.
                  They don't realize that there is a LOT of stuff going on that the video does not show.
                  Since they don't buy the printed manuals, they completely miss the 50-75 pages of detailed descriptions on how to reload and how to setup reloading dies to PROPERLY size their cases to fit their gun.
                  Well, **** man. Just ****ing **** man...

                  And this is allowed?

                  **** me... You mean to tell me I could have saved $15 on the book and just watched it online? Sonofa*****...
                  7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                  And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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                  • #24
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57163

                    Originally posted by stilly
                    Well, **** man. Just ****ing **** man...

                    And this is allowed?

                    **** me... You mean to tell me I could have saved $15 on the book and just watched it online? Sonofa*****...
                    Would you cut off a couple fingers or maybe an eye to save $15?
                    Randall Rausch

                    AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                    Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                    Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                    Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                    Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                    • #25
                      wweigle
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 803

                      No way I would be resizing a loaded, primed round even if a die that worked was available. Sounds very dangerous to me.

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                      • #26
                        FLIGHT762
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 3072

                        While it may seem very scary, I've used a Redding Body Die in 223 and 308 to repair loaded rounds that didn't get their shoulders bumped back far enough. Most of the time it takes very little effort in the die since the case has already been F/L sized.

                        It does work. Not something I do on a regular basis and I wouldn't recommend for the novice reloader, but on that occasional round that somehow didn't get sized properly a Body Die works.

                        In the O/P's case of a lot of ammo, I'd collet pull them and then readjust the F/L die to do a proper job. Chalk it up on a lesson learned and to do it right.

                        We've all been there.

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                        • #27
                          melliw
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 601

                          Again thanks to all for the thoughts. Even the sarcasm.

                          I pulled the batch, resized, and cleaned the brass. Ready to load again. The sizing die worked well. In the words of Flight762....lesson learned.

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