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  • #16
    stilly
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jul 2009
    • 10685

    Those look pretty. You gonna spray them black tiger stripe before putting them on? Maybe make the tops of the letters a contracting color to stand out a bit?
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    • #17
      LynnJr
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7958

      [QUOTE=fguffey;18259441]
      Originally posted by McGuiver
      Ever try to assemble a V-8 motor without assembly lube. You probably won't be able to get very far...
      QUOTE]

      What makes the V8 different, I had no ideal the 2 cylinder, 4 cylinders, 6 cylinders be it flat, inline or a variation of a V or radial did not require lube.

      Ever try? If I built the engine the pump was run before the engine was installed as in 'pre-lube'. I have been asked to testify on the behalf of the defendant. And then; they decided my testimony would only hurt them, not help. And there were times I was asked if ‘they’ call you to testify please notify us.

      It sort of reminds me of the song 'CALDONIA' I lost some friends I needed to loose and got new ones.

      F. Guffey
      And then there was the time I factored everything in.
      I do believe the part about your testimony hurting there case.
      Last edited by LynnJr; 06-05-2016, 2:41 PM.
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      • #18
        McGuiver
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2016
        • 1022

        2nd hand, 3rd hand, ? hand press...former life...

        [QUOTE=LynnJr;18271629]
        Originally posted by fguffey



        And then there was the time I factored everything in.

        I do believe the part of your testimony hurting there case.


        If I'm busy working 12 hour days this last week, I didn't really have time to work on it anyways. I reload when I have time. I shoot when I have time. I was off Friday running a whole bunch or errands, including my personal errand of blowing off some steam at the range for an hour.

        In that hour I went thru 50 rounds 38spl, 150 rounds of 9mm, and 20 rounds 223.

        Work hard, play hard.

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        • #19
          fguffey
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1408

          [QUOTE=McGuiver;18272214]
          Originally posted by LynnJr

          If I'm busy working 12 hour days this last week, I didn't really have time to work on it anyways. I reload when I have time. I shoot when I have time. I was off Friday running a whole bunch or errands, including my personal errand of blowing off some steam at the range for an hour.

          In that hour I went thru 50 rounds 38spl, 150 rounds of 9mm, and 20 rounds 223.

          Work hard, play hard.
          McGuiver, take your time; I hope there was nothing I said that caused you to think you should be in a hurry. I have old presses that were made by manufacturers that are no longer in business, I do not own a press that is worn out and or loose but if I did I would tighten the shafts and ram by knurling and then reaming. The knurl turns into spiral lube groove after reaming. That method/technique is not new; it has been used for 60+ years.

          I have the equipment to replace the hole but I like the lube spiral knurled grooves for lubing. When it comes to long shafts it is not likely the hole will be worn in the center. The Rock Chucker shaft is kicked back at the bottom and forward at the top, that could result in a hole at the top and bottom that would be describes as oval.

          I have 4 Rock Chuckers; Am I worried? No.

          F. Guffey
          Last edited by fguffey; 06-05-2016, 2:07 PM.

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          • #20
            McGuiver
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1022

            2nd hand, 3rd hand, ? hand press...former life...

            [QUOTE=fguffey;18274805]
            Originally posted by McGuiver



            McGuiver, take your time; I hope there was nothing I said that caused you to think you should be in a hurry. I have old presses that were made by manufacturers that are no longer in business, I do not own a press that is worn out and or loose but if I did I would tighten the shafts and ram by knurling and then reaming. The knurl turns into spiral lube groove after reaming. That method/technique is not new; it has been used for 60+ years.



            I have the equipment to replace the hole but I like the lube spiral knurled grooves for lubing. When it comes to long shafts it is not likely the hole will be worn in the center. The Rock Chucker shaft is kicked back at the bottom and forward at the top, that could result in a hole at the top and bottom that would be describes as oval.



            I have 4 Rock Chuckers; Am I worried? No.



            F. Guffey


            No problem. I know when I'm tired I should not reload or work on delicate EQ (press). I get the attitude of wanting to get it done, but have learned over the years of doing it twice because of being tired is no good. It is better to get it right the first time, especially in reloading. I will do brass prep if I'm tired though. Some weeks I only work 40 hours, some over 70hrs. When I get a 40 hour week it seems like I had a short week. I do enjoy my time off. I don't mind of working on older EQ. One of my favorite machines to find and buy would be an old horizontal shaper.

            Last edited by McGuiver; 06-05-2016, 2:45 PM.

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            • #21
              tonyjr
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2015
              • 1448

              Gaulling could be from powder - some of it has / had high suffer content .
              Most juices can eat metal . One pit and dust build up can cause gaulling .
              Something as simple as wiping with lemon pledge and a year or 2 later --
              Someone eating an apple / orange and it guts in air --
              I think I have replaced everything but main frame on my loadmaster .
              Shaftes were replaced with S S , bearing with oilite bushings .
              Don't get wrong idea - I had this done at work . Hey Roy , Would you reload another box of 100 [ 9 mm , 45 or 357 ] - sure but I need the shells and primers - I have the powder .
              After reloading , I hand t him and say I need this for press - shaft , bushing - case length gauges [ for 357 , 55 and 50 AE .
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              • #22
                McGuiver
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 1022

                2nd hand, 3rd hand, ? hand press...former life...

                Now that I had time today I modified the new parts from Dillon.


                All pivot points have a grease port. I also gave them deeper counter sinks.









                I had to go and break out some old machinist tools. I located my 1-2-3 block and a small center drill. Grease thru hole is a 3/32" drill bit.

                I put white Dykem paint pen on the locations that needed to be drilled. I found center and scribed with my calipers. Dykem comes off with alcohol. I cleaned up the bearing surfaces holes with a brown round cratex stick. Removed burrs, and cleaned all with 99% alcohol.

                Now the press is ready for assembly.



                Now every pivot point has a grease point. No more gauling.


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                Last edited by McGuiver; 06-05-2016, 5:07 PM.

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                • #23
                  tonyjr
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 1448

                  Now you either need to cap them or tap and put in zerk fittings
                  life member - CRPA and NRA
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                  • #24
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408

                    Originally posted by tonyjr
                    Now you either need to cap them or tap and put in zerk fittings
                    Or the shaft could have been drilled through the ends with holes drilled into the shaft for distribution through the shaft for lubing.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • #25
                      McGuiver
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 1022

                      Originally posted by fguffey
                      Or the shaft could have been drilled through the ends with holes drilled into the shaft for distribution through the shaft for lubing.



                      F. Guffey


                      Shaft pins look hardened. I would do it if I still had my mill. With my cheesy home drill press no way. Carbide drills are to expensive to break like toothpicks.

                      If I had access to a sinker EDM I would use that to for the hardened pins to bore holes for grease passages.

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                      • #26
                        fguffey
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 1408

                        Originally posted by McGuiver
                        Shaft pins look hardened. I would do it if I still had my mill. With my cheesy home drill press no way. Carbide drills are to expensive to break like toothpicks.

                        If I had access to a sinker EDM I would use that to for the hardened pins to bore holes for grease passages.
                        You are doing fine; the holes could have been drilled before you received the shaft. Then there is the impossible part; the impossible part would be to try to convince a reloader it could be done.

                        F. Guffey

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                        • #27
                          Lead Waster
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 16650

                          Originally posted by Divernhunter
                          I have several presses(RCBS, Hornady and Dillon 650) that have had tons of ammo run thru them. Never seen that and I must say I rarely clean/lube any of them.
                          Personally I do not think you need to do all of what you stated to it. Besides in 20 years if you have a problem they will take care of it for free. That is if we can still own firearms in this flipping state.....or even the country if your buddy Clinton gets in office.
                          My 20 year old 550b only had one "galling" issue. The shellplate turning "star" was stuck to the post it rotates around. Dillon said to pound it off with a hammer because it is galled, and they sent me a new one. I suppose grease at that point would help.

                          Sometimes I put a dab of grease on the ram shaft, or drip some oil on some moving part. But other than that 20 years and no real "wear" issues so those changes OP wants to do are probably not necessary.
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                          • #28
                            Lead Waster
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 16650

                            Wow, when OP goes, he goes BIG!

                            Looks like good work, probably no sweat for an experienced hand.
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