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  • #16
    Cokebottle
    Seņor Member
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    • Oct 2009
    • 32373

    Originally posted by HartUmpire
    Hey Smartass. This isn't Facebook. If you would have read the initial comment you would have seen that I said the local antique outdated range will not allow hard bullets out of fear of ricochets.
    It's unfortunate that social media mentality jerk offs like you chase new shooters from forums like this that are merely here to get some information.
    They are referring to steel core ammo. Poses a ricochet hazard (don't shoot rocks outdoors, and no, it should not be used indoors), but it is mostly prohibited outdoors because of the fire hazard in this dry state.

    There is not a range in this state that doesn't accept lead-core FMJ.
    In fact, the opposite is generally true.
    Many ranges don't accept hollow points because of the lead that aerosolizes into the air when they impact the backstop.

    PURE lead has not been used in decades for most handgun calibers, most semiautomatics won't feed it properly, not to mention the mess that it will make of your barrel.
    .22lr is still available fully lead, and you can find common revolver rounds with only a copper skirt to keep the bore clean.
    Last edited by Cokebottle; 01-03-2016, 7:02 PM.
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    • #17
      ducky_0811
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 759

      I think their may be a disconnect somewhere here.

      To the OP, when you say lead ammo, we think of any projectile that has lead, this includes FMJ ammo. Now if your local indoor range is saying you must use an ALL LEAD bullet, than you basically need to reload, that would also be crazy and I would wonder how that range is still in business.

      You may want to clarify with the range if they mean most common ammo that has a lead core with copper jacket, or if they mean an all lead bullet. Two very different things, and I'm willing to bet they mean most common ammo that has a lead core.

      Don't take it the wrong way but you may have misinterpreted the range.

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      • #18
        Fjold
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Oct 2005
        • 23069

        Originally posted by HartUmpire
        As lead ammunition is becoming a thing of the past for us weekend shooters. Is there any manufactures that still produce lead ammunition or is it basically only reloaded ammunition in the market place? Being a fairly new shooter and the closest indoor range which is quite dated will only allow lead rounds out of fear of ricochets. I am currently in the market for ready to shoot ammunition and not knowledgeable enough in the field to reload.
        Are you saying that your local range does not allow jacketed bullets?
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        • #19
          kcheung2
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 4387

          Originally posted by HartUmpire
          Hey Smartass. This isn't Facebook. If you would have read the initial comment you would have seen that I said the local antique outdated range will not allow hard bullets out of fear of ricochets.
          It's unfortunate that social media mentality jerk offs like you chase new shooters from forums like this that are merely here to get some information.
          I want to keep this quote around for when OP gets banned...

          Oh, and lead isn't hard. Quite a soft metal, actually.
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          • #20
            stilly
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jul 2009
            • 10685

            Originally posted by HartUmpire
            Hey Smartass. This isn't Facebook. If you would have read the initial comment you would have seen that I said the local antique outdated range will not allow hard bullets out of fear of ricochets.
            It's unfortunate that social media mentality jerk offs like you chase new shooters from forums like this that are merely here to get some information.
            hehehe. This is calguns man. Sooner or later a sarcasm attack breaks out in a thread, it is not a question of IF, it is a question of WHEN.

            I was under the impression that you were referring to LEAD ammo, like mostly what they sell for .357 and .38, .45 LC and .44 mag/ special.

            Most autos do not use lead, they like to go with jacketed loads.

            This is why you should seriously consider getting into reloading and casting. Then you can cast up all the 9mm and .40 you want and it will ALL be lead. Then to be cutesy you can PC it so that it leaves your barrel nice and clean. This is also why I said look at gunbroker and other online places, many stores do not sell it or if they do it is JACKETED with soft lead inside like a FMJ or TMJ or WWJD or something.

            So yeah, if you are looking for LEAD projectiles in your loaded ammo, then I stand by my original comments. What city are you in in commiefornia (I call it that too)?

            Originally posted by Fjold
            Are you saying that your local range does not allow jacketed bullets?
            That was my understanding. I bet it is in LA or San Francisco. I can see douchebag ranges making stupid rules like that but why would they do that if they were there to make money? WTFE...


            Hmm, Ya know, it COULD BE quite possible that as suggested, OP HAS indeed misinterpreted the rules of the range for lead requirements. It just makes no sense why a range would do that but hey, I aint seen it all just yet so I will agree with it. Seemed legit... This IS commiefornia after all.
            Last edited by stilly; 01-04-2016, 2:47 AM.
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            • #21
              maxit
              Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 298

              time to reload

              Originally posted by HartUmpire
              I may be wrong but as it looks on the Bear Creek website, they only sell bullets and not completed rounds.
              If you know of someone who sells completed ammunition using Moly bullets i would be interested in purchasing some.
              Hart, its time to learn to reload. Shortages of all ammo when Obama took office started me off.
              I have not see lead ammo sold commercially in years if at all.

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              • #22
              • #23
                stilly
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jul 2009
                • 10685


                HAHAHAHA.

                This guy is a jackass:


                ULTRA SUPER RARE! DESIGNED TO CAUSE NO BARREL WEAR! ONLY PLACE TO GET IT IN THE USA IS ME! LoL. Like I said, there is ammo on Gun Broker too. Just gotta hunt it out.
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                • #24
                  sghart
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1262

                  No shortages of douchebags on this forum.

                  It reflects the current California population.

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                  • #25
                    stilly
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 10685

                    Looking around online it seems that a lot of lead ammo has dried up and gone away. Yeah it is still there. It seems that ULTRAMAX (which is remanufactured) is about all you can buy, but they have it at ammoman and other places.

                    Looking a bit further I am wondering if plated rounds can be used instead of the FMJ- in which case freedom munitions could be called on.

                    This is so ridiculous though, I think OP got the range rules incorrect. Please double check or post the range because unless this is some reloader's only range and they only want lead with no copper to make skimming the dros off the pot easier, it just makes no sense why anyone would require LEAD ONLY unless they are referring to the bullet core where thems tungsten or steel cores are NOT allowed, but LEAD CORE ONLY is allowed. Yeah, I can get that. Sorry OP, I think you should doublecheck your work order here. I vote that you read it incorrectly. Just saying... I'm done here.
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                    Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



                    And remember- 99.9% of the lawyers ruin it for the other .1%...

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