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This gives a lot of good reasons for those who cant shoot to blame the bullet!
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Kaitlyn Jenner.
Folks,
I heard this from a reliable source, that Kaitlyn Jenner helped Hornady develope a NO DRAG bullet. A2Comment
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The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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Last edited by keenkeen; 10-29-2015, 12:59 PM."But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John DrydenComment
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Why? If you bought them more than once then you did so because they work, if they worked they are not going to stop working. I've shot every personal best I've ever shot at 600 with an Amax bullet, why would I not keep shooting them?
There may be better bullets, this might be one of them but I'm not going to stop shooting the best bullet I've ever shot at 600 yards because of "ooooh new fancy!"weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?Comment
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^^^^^^^^^You guys must have missed this in one of my earlier post . ^^^^^^^^^The Hornady 6.5mm 140gr A-Max is a very popular match bullet. Its long-time published G1 BC of .585 has been measured with chronographs at the muzzle, 100 and 200 yards. The radar verifies that exact BC out to 200 yards. When fired at 800 yards; however, the radar verified average BC it is actually .545. This is because of the polymer tip melting and deforming during flight. When the traditional tip is replaced with a Heat Shield tip, the Radar verified 800 yard average BC becomes .610 – a huge improvement! Why a .610 when we already established a 200 yard BC of .585? The .610 BC shows that the traditional tip was already exhibiting degradation at 200 yards.
As mentioned, moderate and low BC tipped bullets (less than .550 G1) are not significantly affected. Case in point: a 22 caliber 50gr V-Max with a conventional polymer tip, fired at 3,700 fps, has a 400 yard radar verified average BC of .232. With a Heat Shield tip, it still had a BC of .232. Similarly, a 7mm 162gr SST has a 500 yard radar verified average BC of .520. When tested with a Heat Shield tip, it only gained a small amount of BC - .532. The .012 increase in BC is too small to matter on this bullet at any distance this bullet would expand on game.
With all do respect to Hornady . I can't stop thinking they are in some way pulling a "Clinton" and using there words carefully . They are saying its a hunting bullet and are clear to only say it shoots like a match bullet . That's fine and in no way misleading . How ever in the last part of the quote above just after the bolded section they throw in the case will expand anyway but did not say if that .12 degradation would effect accuracy . Then there's the whole leaving out the A-Max as a whole and what the tip melting is doing to there accuracy . They appear to be (and rightly so) only speaking to there tipped hunting bullets .
I agree , with out some very detailed clarifications on there tipped match bullets . People will stop buying them . I personally know I do quite a lot of case prep and my jury is still out on the 178gr A-Max because I've seen them not preform the same from shot to shot . Again Not often but I believe I've seen it because I shoot them A LOT .
I'd like to get your take milotrain if you have noticed for what appears to be no reason you shoot a couple crappy groups with the A-Max ?Last edited by Metal God; 10-29-2015, 3:32 PM.Tolerate
allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that one does not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.
Anyone else find it sad that those who preach tolerance CAN'T allow the existence, occurrence, or practice of (something that they do not necessarily like or agree with) without interference.
I write almost everything in a jovial manner regardless of content . If that's not how you took it please try again
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I have not experienced that. The three bullets I shoot at 600 are the 80Amax, 82 Berger HPBT, and the 77gr Nosler HPBT. I believe that each are equal to each other in accuracy, but my best scores have been with the Amax. The 77gr Nosler is not nearly as much of a problem at 600 as people would lead you to believe, but you WILL get nined to death if you aren't on the ball. I will occasionally shoot poor groups prone but they are ALWAYS my fault and since I have built a process that avoids poor focus they have all been position issues.
I'll PM you specifics.weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?Comment
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Isn't that called the Zombie-Max?
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Hornady will be announce a new selection of Ice-Bullets with 925 silver gas checks.Comment
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OMFGLMFAO! :rofl2)
DUDE! ITS A (wait for it...) .22!
ROTFLMFAO!
OMG man... no seriously. I know it is funny and all and I know folks like to do this just because of the naysayers like me, but at 10 minutes a round or whatever it takes. **** THAT... It might be cute to have the kit, but then when I look at it, the mold sucks ***. RIVETED? really? Clearly it must not be made for longevity... omg man. Thanks. Things like this are certainly funny.7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...
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if you think that is crazy, just see what crazy lengths centerfire shooters go through to reload ammo for long distance precision shooting.
Would you believe me if I told you there are .22 competitive shooters out there that go equally as nuts with their ammo? Or black powder competition shooters who unload 22 to reload it with black powder to get that tuft of smoke?
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Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison
The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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I know. You did not. You were just throwing that out there. It is all good. I was just messing around because it was .22 and no one really takes long range precision rimfire seriously
Yes, I know what I just said, and I am grinning...
Now I need to go to the store, I think someone else pissed in my Cheerios... I think they owe me a new bowl too...7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...
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