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  • #16
    DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8967

    Originally posted by Mute
    I have extensive time with both OS. I hate Mac OS.
    And I am the exact reverse of that statement. And anyone that think the latest version of Windows is a great thing needs to have a psych exam ASAP.
    Last edited by DaveInOroValley; 03-19-2014, 4:23 PM.
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    • #17
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 19002

      If your PC had an SSD for the windows drive instead of an HDD, all the drive crunching you complain about wouldn't even be noticed. Also, time to get rid of vista....

      On Linux if you want to avoid the endless update cycle, go with a distro that doesn't have it, or use a version of a distro that is more stable. I like using Ubuntu LTS releases, which are supported for 3 years.

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      • #18
        sd_shooter
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2008
        • 14258

        Originally posted by stix213
        If your PC had an SSD for the windows drive instead of an HDD, all the drive crunching you complain about wouldn't even be noticed. Also, time to get rid of vista....

        On Linux if you want to avoid the endless update cycle, go with a distro that doesn't have it, or use a version of a distro that is more stable. I like using Ubuntu LTS releases, which are supported for 3 years.
        I don't know about that: I have Win7 64 Pro on my work machine with SSD and indeed boots quickly. However the machine still "goes out to lunch" periodically when waiting for network, when waking up etc. Turn on machine, it takes ~30s just to discover the keyboard and mouse. No joke, here in 2014 on cutting edge HW: this is how Windows is!

        And thanks to the earlier poster about the Win7 install guide. I initially did that when I put Vista on this machine (Vista was new at the time) and it _was_ pretty fast when it was new. But now with many system updates (and corresponding 'restore points' later...) the system is pretty crusty. Given my experience w/ Win7-Pro I'm not convinced things would really be that much better. But I am certain I would blow a couple weekends getting everything running.

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        • #19
          penguin0123
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 3089

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          • #20
            cowboy777
            Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 430

            Just get a Mac already!
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            • #21
              TacticalPlinker
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 2532

              Originally posted by daveinwoodland
              And I am the exact reverse of that statement. And anyone that think the latest version of Windows is a great thing needs to have a psych exam ASAP.
              While I have a very limited amount of time on Windows 8, I don't like it. If you're running tablet or some other form of portable touch screen platform, I can definitely see its advantages... But I absolutely disagree with it be marketed, sold and installed as a desktop OS.

              I sometimes don't understand the logic, if any, behind the decisions Microsoft makes. But they're driven entirely by greed/money and a 90% market share. As I said earlier, we live in a Windows world. Microsoft does everything in their power to keep it that way... Legal or otherwise. Much like politicians.

              I've spent many years using/studying various operating systems and researching the companies behind them. Technically speaking, I think there are better operating systems out there...

              But it entirely depends on upon both your needs & your application (what are you using it for) first and foremost. However in terms of simple convenience, mainstream software & hardware compatibility, high availability of support and information, and ease of use, there is no comparison. Windows will always win in those categories until their monopoly, errr... I mean market share, dies a painful death.
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              • #22
                ElvenSoul
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Apr 2008
                • 17431

                How much longer is that big ugly desk thing going to survive in the marketplace?

                Desktop pc sells are way down!

                Wearable computing is around the corner!

                They are out there working on contact lens with little screens.

                Two Weeks!
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                • #23
                  sonofeugene
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 4642

                  I have both and generally have no complaints with either. Big improvements inthe PC can be obtained by tweaking the system to not load or run all the crap apps that run in the background that you really don't need.
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                  • #24
                    TacticalPlinker
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 2532

                    Originally posted by sonofeugene
                    ...Big improvements in the PC can be obtained by tweaking the system to not load or run all the crap apps that run in the background that you really don't need.
                    That, and... Look into service configurations. I have even turned off themes in the past to save memory space on low RAM machines. It can help a lot in both performance and security to turn off unnecessary crap.

                    http://www.blackviper.com (EDIT WITH CAUTION!)

                    You can also look into removing pre-loaded bloat ware from your system easily using app's like http://pcdecrapifier.com

                    I also highly suggest CrapCleaner. Download it. Install it. Use it daily. http://www.piriform.com

                    Simple steps can be taken to improve stability, performance and security... But it's still putting sugar on-top of a bowl of crap.
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                    • #25
                      e90bmw
                      Senior Member
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2013
                      • 1268

                      Mac -> It's BSD unix under the hood.
                      Built in VPN for work access.
                      Built in VNC, client and server.

                      I use what works.
                      My employer uses Windows for email and such.
                      They give me a laptop that never leaves my desk.
                      I take my personal Mac to meetings.
                      I also have a Linux box on the desk behind me that I also use.

                      A computer is a tool.
                      Use the tool that works for you.
                      Last edited by e90bmw; 03-24-2014, 2:23 PM.

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                      • #26
                        TripleThreat
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 2642

                        I went to the Valley Fair mall yesterday. The Apple store is directly across the way from the Microsoft store now they've add a store there, not the smartest business move IMO.

                        Apple: Full of customers
                        Microsoft: Not 1 customer

                        I was tempted to take a photo of both, but decided against it, now I wish I had taken them.
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                        • #27
                          TacticalPlinker
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 2532

                          Originally posted by TripleThreat
                          I went to the Valley Fair mall yesterday. The Apple store is directly across the way from the Microsoft store now they've add a store there, not the smartest business move IMO.

                          Apple: Full of customers
                          Microsoft: Not 1 customer

                          I was tempted to take a photo of both, but decided against it, now I wish I had taken them.

                          Microsoft has a store?
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                          • #28
                            ocabj
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 7924

                            Originally posted by TacticalPlinker
                            Microsoft has a store?
                            Microsoft opened brick and mortar retail stores back in 2009. The one I see the most is at South Coast Plaza in Costa Mesa. It's a pretty sad experience.

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                            • #29
                              TripleThreat
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 2642

                              Originally posted by TacticalPlinker
                              Microsoft has a store?
                              Welcome to the future, what's going out here in Silicon Valley is really cutting edge.

                              Location
                              Level: 1
                              Store: A11
                              Phone: 408.454.5940
                              Westfield Valley Fair Mall
                              Website: Visit Microsoft now.
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                              • #30
                                Wallabing
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 1499

                                It's like asking which person is better

                                A rich person who owns a Mercedez

                                vs

                                A mechanic which build his own muscle cars.

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