XBOX ONE is sounding terrible.

[MadMax]

Who gives a crap if it has to ping your system every 24 hours I don't get why this matters at all

You will be able to buy and sell used copies of games on a disc

It is basically going to be the same as it is now

If you buy a used copy of battlefield 3 right now and the online code has been activated u have to pay to get another online code to play the game online

It is going to be the same setup in the next gen

If you think Sony is going to go easier on the DRM stuff you are fooling yourself

[shooter556]

PS4 will now charge a monthly subscription, just like Xbox live.

It does it now, it's called Playstation Plus. The PSN will still be free. The PS Plus will be the monthly subscription.

If you buy a used copy of battlefield 3 right now and the online code has been activated u have to pay to get another online code to play the game online

Yes but it's only because EA is a greedy son of a *****. Not all games have online passes. And I mostly buy used games just for the story line. I only play a few online games but I do purchase those new. But used games are amazing. You can easily pick up 3 good games for the price of one. I will not be purchasing the new XBOX solely for this reason.

[MadMax]

[Deadbolt]

Think about the gaming market as a whole. MS is trying to make the One a repalcement box, not only for gaming but for streaming meda and cable. They are tyring to position themselves to be the single box when people start "cuting the cable". In the next five years, media companies will bypass cable and go straight to the consumers via streaming MS wants to be the vehicle for that transition.

By supporting HDMI (the cable box) and the internet, they become the gatekeeper and when/if someone ditcheSthe cable and pays for streaming, the One is ready reagardless.

yawn. The always on camera and microphone are huge privacy issues imho as well as their approach to "no game sharing" is atrocious.

Passing.

[Merc1138]

Oh, so I can sell my used game to gamestop(or some other participating retailer) for $10, and a buyer can pay $40.

When previously I could just sell it on ebay for $30, pocket $27 after fees, and the buyer pays less.

Sounds just like how it used to be!

Look, anyone with half a brain knew DRM was coming. The online passes were basically just CD keys. We've had that with PC games for years now. The "problem" is that since console games need to be installed(can't just get home from work and fire it up), console f/w needs to be updated(can't just get home and play any time you want), games need updates(sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's slow), and now that we have DRM on consoles(only being able to sell used games to a participating retailer is still DRM), there's even less of a point to bothering with a console, since we'll have all of the annoyances from PC gaming, and none of the upsides that console games have had since the late 70's by comparison.

[lilro]

PS4 will now charge a monthly subscription, just like Xbox live.

“In addition, Microsoft could conceivably subsidise the Xbox One through prepaid Xbox Live Gold subscriptions (as it has done on a limited basis in the past) or premium Skype functionality as well. Similarly, Sony would subsidise the PS4 through prepaid PlayStation Network subscriptions, but unlike Microsoft, it does not have a history of doing so.”

I don't know how it will be with the PS4, but Playstation Plus (paid subscription) on the PS3 has all kinds of benefits. Free full games every month, one hour trials of brand new AAA games (not demo, but full game for 1 hour), demos, avatars, early DLC, cloud saving, auto updates, etc.

Who gives a crap if it has to ping your system every 24 hours I don't get why this matters at all

You will be able to buy and sell used copies of games on a disc

It is basically going to be the same as it is now

If you buy a used copy of battlefield 3 right now and the online code has been activated u have to pay to get another online code to play the game online

It is going to be the same setup in the next gen

If you think Sony is going to go easier on the DRM stuff you are fooling yourself

Not quite. With the XBOX One, you will have to buy a game at full price to play it at all, not just online. If you have a game and want to play at a buddies house, he has to buy the game to play, even though you already have the disc. You stick the disc in, and he has to buy a license. Or, you can sign in to YOUR account on his XBOX, and play for 1 hour. If you have some friends over to watch a movie, the Kinect will scan how many people are in the room, and charge you based on how many people there are. The Kinect NEVER turns off, and always records audio, as there are voice commands to power the console.

PS4 and XBOX One are not on the same level at all.

We designed Xbox One so game publishers can enable you to trade in your games at participating retailers. Microsoft does not charge a platform fee to retailers, publishers, or consumers for enabling transfer of these games.”

That means no more private sales. It will be just like CA gun transfer laws, sans DROS fee. Stores will need a MGL (Microsoft Games License) to sell used games.

Actually, it's worse. What if a publisher decides not to "enable" their game for trade-in?

[nanoc]

Real gamers use PC's.

[Emdawg]

Trash.

[MrLawless1]

All the "trending" stuff is what I could care less about, especially in regards to music on the Xbox One. Modern music today sucks.... Keep your Katy Perry..... I'll be jamming some AC/DC and Stones.

[ShadowX]

The only reason why Microsoft won with Xbox 360 over the PS3 was because the Xbox was hacked on day one. PS3 was not hacked for years. Its reality.

[the86d]

It is commonly referred to as the X-Bone for a reason...

And that reason has to do with used games, and paying more that we currently do for used games.

[dynamomark80]

Real gamers use PC's.

yeah keyboards over controllers anyday

The only reason why Microsoft won with Xbox 360 over the PS3 was because the Xbox was hacked on day one. PS3 was not hacked for years. Its reality.

nope Xbox 360 really only had a few good titles when it came out and I think the Halo people really backed the system and made it take off. you have to think out of the crap ton on systems out there probably 95% are never hacked/modded at all. What made the PS3 ok was you didnt have to pay for a monthly service to play online and that it had a bluray drive. Now that the more and more media is offered as digital download or streamed to a console disc drives will eventually become obsolete.

One thing MS fails to understand is that the secondary market for used games alone can help boost console image in today market. Under pressure from developers they are now implementing a system that will pretty much kill of any possibility for a secondary market, no good MS. Lets face it people what to play god when it comes to "their" stuff and this is just who Android popped up to uppercut the **** out of the OS offered by Apple. In time gamers/consumers will start to opt for something different instead of being constrained by the all mighty Sony, MS, and Nintendo. We want to feel free even if we have to pay take a shaft at $60 per game.

Besides all the bs system implementations made to force people to buy and not share games the PS4 still looks better based on hardware specs. AMD is killing it on these sytems for sure so kudos to them.
Both systems have 8 core cpu but the PS4 has 8GB of ddr5 ram unlike the ddr3 ram MS opted to use. GPU is better in the PS4 as well and that my friends is going to make the in-game action so much better. When playing games in high definition you need good hardware, especially the GPU so you can maintain frame rates with a good level of detail. Multi-player FPS drive the market and when you have 16+ player shredding each other you really want to have no loss in visual detail. Hell, the PS4 controller looks more entertaining then the entire xbox system dam touchpad? hell yes i love to finger things, dual shock? **** i love to shake things up.

PS4 is a console gamers orgasmic wet dream waiting to happen.

The only thing console gaming is lacking is a solid state drive (SSD) and if Sony really wanted to make MS crap their pants they would offer a premium build with a kick *** SSD instead of the typical drive.

[MadMax]

SO much misinformation

Remember when the rumor was online connection all the time and not trade in of any game whatsoever.

95% of that was BS and we still have all the complaining.

All Xbox one games will be available for download on release day and most will also be available on a disk.

You can take your disk based games and sell trade whatever anywhere it is up to the developer if they charge a online pass renew fee.

If you go to a friends house you can log in on his XBOX One and play all of your games thru his Xbox One cause everything will be on the cloud. While you are doing this it will ping your account every hour but you can play as long as you want.

If you have a digital copy of a game you can give it to a friend if they have been on your friends list for 30 days. If you have a digital copy of a game now you are stuck with it.

Stop with all the BS if you really want to be mad at the xbox one it should be for the following:

I don't need or want Kinect, all the money and development should have went into hardware and software for games.

I don't need an hdmi pass thru so I can watch tv thru my xbox one again all that money should have gone into games and gaming.

To me those are some reasons to be upset, give me a gaming console and screw the rest.

I will be getting an xbox one and a ps4 for exclusives, hardware wise they are going to be very similar. Again with regards to the PS4 they are the kings of DRM I can't wait to see what kind of shady crap they have planned.

[89 Vision]

Yuck!!! Good thing I'm a Playstation user.

[gobler]

PS4 will NOT require online to play. Games are yours to trade, sell or lend. PS4 for the win!!!


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