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  • #16
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34839

    This unit looks good. I have never heard of eGenius, but it seems they have very good support.

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    • #17
      monk
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 4454

      SSID to VLAN mapping sounds pretty awesome actually.


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      • #18
        five.five-six
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2006
        • 34839

        Originally posted by monk
        SSID to VLAN mapping sounds pretty awesome actually.
        If you are running an office /warehouse with a retail front end that seems like a fairly common application where it makes sense. In my home, I am using SSID to VLAN to keep the kids from screwing things up. In addition, I can't get easily get weiring to my NAS which serves my .qdb database, I am using QOS too

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        • #19
          paul0660
          In Memoriam
          • Jul 2007
          • 15669

          I work on $400,000 routers every day ...just depends on what you want it to do.
          It all depends. I start cheap and usually regret it, but my $15 router really is covering 10k square through trees and walls. The experts here said I needed multiple blah blah and some driver but I tried the old one and it worked.

          I am not at all sure about the guest thing.

          I hope you sound confident when you work on the expensive ones.
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          • #20
            five.five-six
            CGN Contributor
            • May 2006
            • 34839

            Originally posted by paul0660
            It all depends. I start cheap and usually regret it, but my $15 router really is covering 10k square through trees and walls. The experts here said I needed multiple blah blah and some driver but I tried the old one and it worked.
            I am glad your unit suits your needs. I doubt if your $15 router will support .5 petabyte of throughput with redundancy, but those cost $1/2 mill and use more power than most homes.


            WiFi works much better away from people and noise and walls and buildings. In the city, using WiFi is not unlike carrying on a conversation at a loud party. In an enterprise application, it is like trying to teach 3rd grade inside a loud party. I am trying to teach 3rd grade inside a loud party and have back to school night all at the same time.. and I have a contract that says I will make it work.... Why did I write that contract

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            • #21
              NYT
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2011
              • 3811

              Originally posted by five.five-six
              I work on $400,000 routers every day ...just depends on what you want it to do.
              damn, you work for an isp? Verizon?

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              • #22
                five.five-six
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 34839

                I have said too much

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                • #23
                  bigbearbear
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 5378

                  You might be able to use just your existing router if you position it somewhere in the center of your 5000 sq feet area. To bring the router to the center location, you might have to use something like a powerline product which extended your Ethernet connections via your AC power outlet.

                  There are also WiFi range extenders, but I've never used those before:

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                  • #24
                    stilly
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 10685

                    Originally posted by five.five-six
                    Sure, I have a WiFi router in my house that does this. The kicker is that in this instance need to cover 5,000 sqft, so multiple access points is probably needed. How can I do this? effectively my budget is $400 including the router.
                    There is a website: http://www.cyberguys.com/
                    http://www.cyberguys.com/product-lis...categoryid=298 for wifi stuff

                    I do not know WHAT I ordered from them but I received a printed catalog in the mail from them.

                    WOW. I have seen networking items in that catalog that made my head spin.

                    I am talking about creating a wifi mesh of access points each with over 100' range and not too costly. They also have repeaters or other devices in their catalog that you would normally find at costco or trader joes or best buy that they sell that enhances your network to give you complete coverage. I forgot the prices but they were not TOO costly. You might wanna give them a look. They also sell really cool LED bulbs for your house.

                    Good luck.
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                    • #25
                      Barbarossa
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4436

                      Originally posted by five.five-six
                      I need 2 SSIDs. One secured with local LAN and internet assess, the other open with only internet access. I will have to look at the prints, but it is a solid 5,000 sqft single story. I am afraid to do it with just one access point and would prefer locate the router in the server room
                      Here you go.

                      Cisco WRVS4400N Wireless-N Gigabit Security Router - VPN
                      $178.59 from CDW



                      • Flexible segmentation of users: Flexible, built-in support for up to 4 multiple service set identifiers (SSIDs) and up to four 802.1Q virtual LAN (VLAN) connections enables the creation separate virtual networks to allow secure guest access and improve traffic flow (Figure 2). The WRVS4400N can interoperate with other VLAN-capable switches, further enhancing flexibility.
                      We are in a 10,000 sq/ft concrete tilt up building. Not many walls (obstructions), but it does a good job.
                      Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                      • #26
                        Excitable Boy
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 568

                        Originally posted by five.five-six
                        I am glad your unit suits your needs. I doubt if your $15 router will support .5 petabyte of throughput with redundancy, but those cost $1/2 mill and use more power than most homes.


                        WiFi works much better away from people and noise and walls and buildings. In the city, using WiFi is not unlike carrying on a conversation at a loud party. In an enterprise application, it is like trying to teach 3rd grade inside a loud party. I am trying to teach 3rd grade inside a loud party and have back to school night all at the same time.. and I have a contract that says I will make it work.... Why did I write that contract
                        If you know that much about IT, then you should know that if you buy cheap network gear, you're going to get a cheap network and all the wonderful stuff that comes with it. It sounds like you work in a data center, so Wifi may not be what you work on every day. 5000 sq. ft is a lot to cover with a robust wireless network. I think Cisco specs (real Cisco, not Linksys by Cisco) specifies about 1500 sq. ft. of coverage per WAP with their enterprise grade WAPS. Check out Ruckus wireless stuff. You're not going to pull it off for $400.00, but their stuff really delivers.

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                        • #27
                          five.five-six
                          CGN Contributor
                          • May 2006
                          • 34839

                          Originally posted by Excitable Boy
                          You're not going to pull it off for $400.00, but their stuff really delivers.
                          Yea, I kinda figured that... oh well you win some you lose some. Hopefuly there is enough in the rest of the contract to cover my loss on the WiFi. Live and learn

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                          • #28
                            nothinghere2c
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 2259

                            even a old school linksys wrt54g router running dd-wrt can do what you want, but maybe not up to the caliber of response time and throughput you're looking for. I did this on my old linksys running ddwrt and had my regular wlan setup for unfirewalled access then a loosely restricted secondary ssid wlan where I put in some iptables rules that denies the public ssid access to anything other than the internet. Granted the poor linksys device ran about 100 degrees it can be done with open source firmwares like tomato or ddwrt with a little research on multiple ssids.

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                            • #29
                              five.five-six
                              CGN Contributor
                              • May 2006
                              • 34839

                              I have 2 wrt54g's, I FAILED at upgrading the FW to ddwrt on one and basically bricked it. I should play with that thing more.

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                              • #30
                                five.five-six
                                CGN Contributor
                                • May 2006
                                • 34839

                                So, most of the AP solutions I am looking at require VLAN. Can the VLAN be built in the PoE switch or do I need a VLAN router?

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