Top 5 reason to not get the IPHONE 4.

[Tacom]

Like I said, it's not a fix. They released a patch that changed the way the signal strength is displayed and called it a fix when in fact they did nothing to resolve the issue. They also claimed that it is a bug that has been around since the original iPhone was released. Do you really believe that?

I am saying the patching of the signal strength is a fix for an incorrect algorithm which is a good thing. I am also saying that fix does nothing to address the inherent flaw in the design.

I don't understand why you're taking such issue with what I'm saying when I am in agreement with you. My initial post made that quite clear

Good job Apple for fixing the signal strength display issue. Not so good job at fixing the actual problem people were complaining about.

In other words, good job Apple for fixing a problem no one would care about if there wasn't that design flaw. Or put another way, way to suck at fixing the actual problem apple.

[308SASS]

Evo is open platform known as Android (fancy name for mobile Linux, pretty much). So, you can do with your phone anything you want to - including re-flashing the OS on it So, it is highly doubtful that you can get onto WiFi with an Android phone

BTW, there are alternatives to Evo consider: HTC Hero is a pretty good, fast, and reliable phone. Works on any GSM network.

What do you mean highly doubtful you can get onto WiFi with an Android phone?

I don't get what you're trying to say, but I can tell you at home I use WiFi not the 4g or 3g, and I've also played Modern Warfare II on my PS3 using only my EVO's Sprint service to tether to the PS3 - so WiFi works

[JDay]

I am saying the patching of the signal strength is a fix for an incorrect algorithm which is a good thing.

I'm saying there was never anything wrong with it to begin with, if there was it would have been fixed a long time ago (Steve Jobs said this bug has been present since the original iPhone release, do you really believe that?). It was nothing more than PR damage control to make it look like they did something about the issue, the fact is that this 'fix' does nothing to fix the signal strength issue.

In other words, good job Apple for fixing a problem no one would care about if there wasn't that design flaw.

They fixed nothing, Apple is just blowing smoke up your arse.

[skuehl]

I own an Android phone and have used the iPhone, there is no difference in usability (aside from the true multitasking). With Android 2.1+ anyway. I really see no reason to get an iPhone over a Android based phone besides the trendy factor.

Ha ha thats funny. My daughters boyfriend's crashed three times while he was showing me how cool it was. And when I said she me an app that you think is really cool. He showed me some lame game.

More apps
Less crashing

you keep your android I will keep my iPhone. And for those that have network issues just wait. If Verizon had a phone that was HALF as popular and used as much data as the iPhone can there network would be on its knees.

[JDay]

Ha ha thats funny. My daughters boyfriend's crashed three times while he was showing me how cool it was. And when I said she me an app that you think is really cool. He showed me some lame game.

More apps
Less crashing

you keep your android I will keep my iPhone. And for those that have network issues just wait. If Verizon had a phone that was HALF as popular and used as much data as the iPhone can there network would be on its knees.

He must have had a really bad model or a defective phone if it was crashing. As for cool apps, you just need to look through the Market and you will find tons of cool apps. Most of the apps have a free version too.

http://www.android.com/market

[slobson]

yes but the experience was nothing but dismal using it on the Microsoft platform. They may have had it first, but it was all but unusable in their environment. Thus the lack of notability.
Android will eventually be a solid platform, but that fact that Apple maintains such a stringently tight control over both the hardware AND software of their devices is what continues to propel them to the apex of the usability curve. In that sense, their draconian policies really do pay off.
Yes, you can use Skype video on an Evo on any carriers network, but 9 times out of 10, the experience is both convoluted and dismal.

what he said

[kozumasbullitt]

1. overrated
2. new models pop up every 3 to 6 months
3. to expensive
4. Signal problems

New models every 3-6 months? The iPhone comes out with a new model every year so you made everything you said invalid with that statement. The truth is the android platform puts out a new phone every 3 months and if $199 is to expensive then you don't need a smartphone.

[dixieD]

I actually have not had any problems with ATT, but I realize people have. I've luckily never had any dropped calls on my 3G and iphone 4. When I had an earlier HTC running WM_something, my phone developed a habit of making calls on its own.

I've used my iPhone in Germany, France, Switzerland, Chile, Taiwan, Mexico, Japan, Antioch, and even San Fran without problems. The only place it did not work was S. Korea but that was before its adoption there. Had a face time chat with someone in Switzerland that worked the first time. I was able to use Skype to make landline calls while in Montana in an area with no cell phone coverage by any provider. The speaker phone works very well.

Love the Tom Tom GPS app.

Love the Reason Magazine app, and the CATO Institute videos on youtube. One complaint is that I have not found a really good news feed app, but I have something that works well.

I really like the integration with iTunes and my music library. It makes getting those free Mark Levin podcasts a breeze. I also like the integration with iPhoto

Personally I think the antenna issue is being hyped as I have not had any problems.

I do think that what we are going to hear more about in the future regarding iPhone 4 is dissatisfaction with its strength. It is made of glass, and I doubt it will survive falls very well. I dropped that HTC from 3ft. It bounced a foot and was fine. I've dropped the 3G from about 2 feet and it survived. I bet the iphone 4 would not survive a 1 foot drop.

[spsellars]

yes but the experience was nothing but dismal using it on the Microsoft platform. They may have had it first, but it was all but unusable in their environment. Thus the lack of notability.

You obviously have no clue what Microsoft Surface is. You don't use "it on the Microsoft platform", it IS the platform. It's able to track 52 inputs at once, Apple's devices track 2 to 5. (And it doesn't rely on capacitive or resistive touch, nor temperature changes.) Since you seem to think the experience is dismal, where did you use one? It's only downside is that by virtue of its design, it won't be making it into hand held devices any time soon (which wasn't its use case anyway.)

New models every 3-6 months? The iPhone comes out with a new model every year so you made everything you said invalid with that statement.

Sure, but only if you pretend the first three (of 5 total) iPhones didn't exist. They were all released 5 months apart.

[kozumasbullitt]

There has been 4 iPhones released 1 each year, please back up your 1 every 5 month statement.

[kozumasbullitt]

June 07, july 08, June 09 and July 10

[JDay]

I do think that what we are going to hear more about in the future regarding iPhone 4 is dissatisfaction with its strength. It is made of glass, and I doubt it will survive falls very well. I dropped that HTC from 3ft. It bounced a foot and was fine. I've dropped the 3G from about 2 feet and it survived. I bet the iphone 4 would not survive a 1 foot drop.

My HTC Droid Eris uses Gorilla Glass, don't even need a screen protector on this stuff.



Try this with your iPhone

[bwiese]

eh I don't expect the camera technology in iPhone to start catching up with their competitors.

Dedicated cameras - either point&shoot still camreas, or camcorders such as Flip video cameras or prosumer devices and above - will always outshine glued-on camera modules that only occupy a fraction of a cellphone's board area and battery life.

Also, the cellphone industry keeps throwing higher & higher megapixel counts at the consumer [who generally are the cell service provider] as a line item to promote sales - and these guys don't realize higher resolution = far noisier video/worse low-light performance.

[sfwdiy]

He must have had a really bad model or a defective phone if it was crashing. As for cool apps, you just need to look through the Market and you will find tons of cool apps. Most of the apps have a free version too.

http://www.android.com/market

I'm with JDay. I have an iPhone and I'm tired of it. I'll be buying an HTC Incredible as soon as my contract is up. Aside from the fact that I continually have to do the "jailbreak, then avoid updates" dance to use the device the way I want/need to, the network issues I've experienced with AT&T are the stuff of legend. I can't receive calls in my condo at all, and I can actually see an AT&T corporate store from my patio. The "5 Bars, No Calls" thing it does is awesome too. No 3G coverage anywhere outside of major cities. Coverage in the cities is hit-or-miss, too. I'm done paying $90 a month for what amounts to a full color two-way pager.

Dedicated cameras - either point&shoot still camreas, or camcorders such as Flip video cameras or prosumer devices and above - will always outshine glued-on camera modules that only occupy a fraction of a cellphone's board area and battery life.

Also, the cellphone industry keeps throwing higher & higher megapixel counts at the consumer [who generally are the cell service provider] as a line item to promote sales - and these guys don't realize higher resolution = far noisier video/worse low-light performance.

Pshhhh.... Right, like you know anything about digital cameras.

--B

[blisster]

You obviously have no clue what Microsoft Surface is. You don't use "it on the Microsoft platform", it IS the platform. It's able to track 52 inputs at once, Apple's devices track 2 to 5. (And it doesn't rely on capacitive or resistive touch, nor temperature changes.) Since you seem to think the experience is dismal, where did you use one? It's only downside is that by virtue of its design, it won't be making it into hand held devices any time soon (which wasn't its use case anyway.)



Sure, but only if you pretend the first three (of 5 total) iPhones didn't exist. They were all released 5 months apart.

This comment whas a while ago, and you're correct, I didn't note that the OP was speaking of Microsoft Surface. I do remember reading an article on Surface a year or two ago, but again, you're correct, I've never interacted with it personally. I'm sure its great. However, I do not see how it applies to a conversation about smart phones.