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  • #61
    JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    Originally posted by stormy_clothing
    also the closed circuit OS is superior to manage the hardware it has basically 1 complete package.
    Closed is never better, you have no real choice in apps besides the ones that Apple has decided for you. However you do have an app store flooded with thousands of duplicate applications, each in a different color.

    With the 2.2 upgrade and even into android 3 which google claims brings the phones out of beta and into the real android experience step up that challenge alot so does the forthcoming scorpion with 1.4 GHZ and future Motorola phones with 2GHZ and forward facing cameras ect.
    I wouldn't call 2.1 or 2.2 beta.

    Right now the network and it's closed structure are it's two crutches - next year it's going to Verizon with the broadcom quad band chip that will introduce the world phone concept that google had been striving for with the initial plans for the nexus 1.
    World phones have been around for years, they're called quad band GSM.

    Since Apple created the smart phones as we now know them it will be fun to see google and apple battle head to head on Verizon as both users will win and apple will revert to 4% like there PC market share ahahahahahaha Google tablet and net book integration = isuck game over
    Apple did not create the modern smart phone, all they did was release one with a polished interface (its much a copy of the old HTC touch ui interface for WM5). Windows Mobile even had an app store first. In fact the only real difference between the iPhone and my 4 year old WM5 world phone is the shiny interface, everything the iPhone does my WM5 phone already did.
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    • #62
      Sillyguy
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Nov 2009
      • 1300

      such anti iphone in here.

      that being said. i love my iphone 4. haha nuff said.

      i even work for Apple's enemy....
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      • #63
        Travis8128
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1445

        Originally posted by blisster
        Actually ATT's nuts are in Apple's vice, they pay a large fortune for the exclusivity contract.

        They pay alot; but they are making alot more off of it.

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        • #64
          stormy_clothing
          Banned
          • Dec 2008
          • 2809

          Originally posted by JDay
          Closed is never better, you have no real choice in apps besides the ones that Apple has decided for you. However you do have an app store flooded with thousands of duplicate applications, each in a different color.



          I wouldn't call 2.1 or 2.2 beta.



          World phones have been around for years, they're called quad band GSM.



          Apple did not create the modern smart phone, all they did was release one with a polished interface (its much a copy of the old HTC touch ui interface for WM5). Windows Mobile even had an app store first. In fact the only real difference between the iPhone and my 4 year old WM5 world phone is the shiny interface, everything the iPhone does my WM5 phone already did.
          It's because of the closed system that iphone has it's level of polish - since it accomplishes everything that 50 million people have needed it to do thats the best way for that phone which is not a society but a piece of tech, so in this regard it is better. The only major restrictions like tethering and multi-tasking are conditions of ATT not Apple.

          Sorry but Google has called 2.1/2.2/2.5 all beta builds, they demoed the basic android 3 concept back in January at CES behind closed doors to OEMS and are on record for making those claims. 3 is set to land before years end as of that time.

          No world phones have not been around forever, try using your 3g phone on a cdma network and you will understand the difference between phones that will work on the 4 largest 3g carrier bands and phones that work over all networks like CDMA, Wimax and others. The chips that can are what Qualcom and others were touting were the future of handsets and what Google was banking on and what companies like att are fighting against, it's inevitable.

          I don't know what phone that came before the iphone that you were basing your remarks on, as the Treo 61 series was the pinnacle on smart phones when it first landed.

          I was at a luncheon where CTIA was awarding Motorla for there rebirth with the RAZR series and the VP stood up and clearly stated the Iphone was the future of mobile devices - integrated apps like youtube and itunes functioning flawlessly with other web applets over 3g or wifi - accelerometers, GPS, precision touch screens instead of stylus use. I ca go on and on but you are clearly mistaken on a number of things here.

          coincidentally there is a new article about android 3 today

          Last edited by stormy_clothing; 06-30-2010, 1:18 PM.

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          • #65
            bigmike82
            Bit Pusher
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2008
            • 3876

            "Sorry but Google has called 2.1/2.2/2.5 all beta builds"
            You're technically correct, but when it comes to friggin' Google, Beta doesn't mean anything. The point is that Android IS a prod release...very far from a beta one.

            "integrated apps like youtube and itunes functioning flawlessly"
            Apple was first on youtube, specifically, but there were many multimedia providers for WM at that time. That's hardly innovation. GPS, touch screens without stylus...NONE of these were Apple innovations.

            Apple is not a company that advances technology. They advance useability. There's a huge difference.
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            • #66
              slobson
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 543

              Originally posted by bigmike82
              "Sorry but Google has called 2.1/2.2/2.5 all beta builds"
              You're technically correct, but when it comes to friggin' Google, Beta doesn't mean anything.
              yep. gmail was in beta for 5 years and change

              Originally posted by bigmike82
              Apple is not a company that advances technology. They advance useability. There's a huge difference.
              I do agree that they thrive on usability, but they have pushed advancements in technology as well (i.e. multi touch). the thing apple does best is market their products by building a culture around them, jobs has been doing it since I was still pooping my pants and playing with it after
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              • #67
                45R
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2028

                I am still running a first Gen phone no need to upgrade yet.
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                • #68
                  uzigalil
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 1180

                  Originally posted by 45R
                  I am still running a first Gen phone no need to upgrade yet.
                  thats what you think, but your missing alot

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                  • #69
                    kozumasbullitt
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2912

                    looks like a lot of iphone bashing here and droid praising. there were many reviews and comparisons done that had the iphone 4 beating out even the newest droid to hit the market in a couple of weeks. I doubt PC mag would give Apple kudos for the hell of it. If you like your droid then great be happy...for the 3-6 weeks before the next latest greatest droid comes out.

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                    • #70
                      kellito
                      Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 447

                      it took me almost a year and a half to stop hating my iphone, I had so many stupid problems, but everybody just kept hyping it up. I really hated it. Most of the dumb problems are now gone, so now I just hate at&t and itunes. I hate itunes so much I will never buy another mac product, and I hate at&t enough to try another carrier. I don't know if any other phone will be better or not, and at this point I don't care, I just don't want to deal with at&t/itunes.

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                      • #71
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by stormy_clothing
                        No world phones have not been around forever, try using your 3g phone on a cdma network and you will understand the difference between phones that will work on the 4 largest 3g carrier bands and phones that work over all networks like CDMA, Wimax and others. The chips that can are what Qualcom and others were touting were the future of handsets and what Google was banking on and what companies like att are fighting against, it's inevitable.
                        GSM is the global standard for mobile phones not CDMA. You fan check this yourself, this is why no world phones are CDMA. This also has nothing to do with 3G.

                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #72
                          Teletiger7
                          Veteran Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2720

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                          Last edited by Teletiger7; 07-02-2010, 10:43 PM.

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                          • #73
                            turbogg
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1248

                            One of the top five reasons not to get and iPhone.......................there aren't any available to buy!
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                            • #74
                              308SASS
                              Junior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 95

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                              • #75
                                lewdogg21
                                Cattle Thieves Pro Staff
                                • May 2009
                                • 10369

                                So my wife and I currently are not smart phone users but have decided it's time. We are current AT&T customers. From my research I've found that Verizon is too expensive (like $99/person for 450 mins and data) for me to consider.

                                The evo is attractive and Sprint's talk and data plan pricing works for me but from what I've read you have to pay extra for the 3G/4G access and you can't tap into available wifi. Correct?
                                Originally posted by jmonte35
                                Disagree. Been trying to teach lewdogg21 how to hunt. It's like trying to teach Steve Wonder how to see. Not sure we're ever going to get there.
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