Need Advice on this Gun Safe

[Agent 0range]

+1 for Liberty over Canon. Only 10% of the low - mid range Canons are made in the US. The rest are imported from China and Mexico. Comparable Liberty models are all made in the US.

[sticker]

I also bought a superior safe from westcoastsafes, I love my safe and the staff at westcoast is top notch. I went to the store in ontario very nice showroom and have plenty of options to look through

[golfish]

That's a good size but I guarantee there's not much more than some thin sheet steel in the walls and door. The 4" claimed on the door includes the frame and fire board.

JDay, what else would you think a 4"thick door on a gun safe would include or not include?

[TMS2334]

Cannon warranty includes free parts and labor if for some reason you have a problem getting into your safe and if the tech they send out can't fix it they will cone get it and fix it at there facility.

[kozumasbullitt]

The words "Tractor Supply" and "Good Safe" don't belong I'm the same sentence. They sell cheap Chinese imports.

Both the Rhino and Bighorn safes have 11G steel, the older larger Bighorn safes had 10G steel and you only get 10G steel with the higher line Rhino safes. The cheaper Bighorns may have 12G steel but you are not comparing apples to apples.

[.45 ACP]

No safe in that price range will trouble a real burglar for more than 30 minutes tops. Bolting it down, and keeping it hidden are far more important than ".25 more inches of steel".

Most people bolt their safe in their bedroom, inside the closet. Keep your safe somewhere that isn't obvious, then bolt it down.

[blackrat]

I've got that safe through tractor supply, very happy with it's form and capacity. Is it ft knox? No. It's a hell of a lot more secure than my closet and the gun lockers though and with proper placement it'll give a thief a headache to get into. Give someone enough time and nothing is impregnable though, and in reality you'll most likely be faced with a smash and grabber. The chances of dealing with a thief that's going to take the time to bust in is low.

[JDay]

It reminds me of people who argue which is the better truck, Ford or Chevy.

GMC.

[JDay]

JDay, what else would you think a 4"thick door on a gun safe would include or not include?

I was pointing out the misleading specs on lower end safes with a composite door. They never tell you how much steel is in it. Usually it's not much. Better to get a safe with a plate steel door 1/4" or thicker.

[ja308]

Problem with most of these safes I see is the locking mechanism, also not a fan of electronic locks.

Exactly and for those who choose ignore suggestions on what lock to get . I believe most electronic locks will give a warning before becoming completly unserviceable.
I know mine allowed me to change the combination when one number started to cause problems.

I would advise calling a locksmith while you can still get the safe open .

[SDM44]

In that price range, look into the SF AmSec safes before a Cannon safe.

[Fishslayer]

Mine is a Cannon but... I paid a lot more for a lot less safe...

[L84CABO]

Nearly any safe secured will stop amateur thieves . If a dialbolical POS professional type has targeted you, a safe alone will not protect your property . Other methods combined with a safe can .

It's interesting when you consider that a REAL...not a Residential Security Container which is what most of these things are...but a real top of the line safe from, say, Graffunder, Brown, AmSec, is only rated to stop a somewhat knowledgeable thief with tools, for 30 minutes (TL-30 rated safes). These are safes weighing thousands of pounds and costing $5K-$10K or more.

RSC's have their place. They will keep the kids out and the quick hit burglars. But you should have no illusions about how much real security they will provide. The videos are out there showing a couple guys with no experience and a couple of pry bars breaking into a cheap RSC in a minute or two.

Make sure you understand what you are really buying. And don't forego firearms insurance because you think you are better protected than you really are. Remember the best safes out there only buy 30 minutes if you come up against an experienced thief.

[PokerGun]

I have this safe from Costco that I bought when they had a $200 off. For $799.00 delivered was not a bad price.

http://www.costco.com/BIGHORN-Safe-%7c-24-CuFt-%7c-70-min-Fire-Protection-%7c-59%e2%80%9dH-x-30%e2%80%9dW-x-24%e2%80%9dD-%7c-Electronic-Lock.product.11468049.html

I also have an alarm at home and my wife pretty much home (work at home) most of the time unless we go on vacation.

[golfish]

I was pointing out the misleading specs on lower end safes with a composite door. They never tell you how much steel is in it. Usually it's not much. Better to get a safe with a plate steel door 1/4" or thicker.

Gotcha, I agree, the thicker the better. A removable door is a plus too.