Good range in Orange County?

[choochboost]

I am a member at both On Target and Firing Line. I prefer On Target. The staff at Firing Line is a too restrictive with the rules IMO. The staff at On target is more laid back without compromising safety. Another thing...and this is a big one for some people...it is a lot louder at Firing Line. On Target has more lanes. On target has a lot more rentals. Things seem to only be getting better with the new owner at On Target. I think that's about it.

[ask80]

does On-Target have LEO membership discounts?
how is OC indoor range in Brea?

any what is the closest range that allows rifles ( I heard On-Target does?) and the closest out door range ?

I'm in the buena park area.

and also where is Ade's shop and contact info? i'd like to visit. as you can tell i'm moving up to OC soon so i'd like to get some gun info before I move. Thanks

[Paradiddle]

does On-Target have LEO membership discounts?
how is OC indoor range in Brea?

any what is the closest range that allows rifles ( I heard On-Target does?) and the closest out door range ?

I'm in the buena park area.

and also where is Ade's shop and contact info? i'd like to visit. as you can tell i'm moving up to OC soon so i'd like to get some gun info before I move. Thanks

Do a search on ranges - there is a pretty big thread here with a list of them. Prado has outdoor pistol and shotgun only as does the HB and Orange Police Department (on Katella) for pistol. All the rifle ranges are out of OC.

Do a search for Ade as here as well - or you can search Yahoo Yellow pages - his shop doesn't have a website, but it's listed.

[Moonclip]

I believe Brea range is like Firing Line where if you don't want a membership the prices are quite high. I believe the "mad Russian" is gone from On Target.

If you are in Torrance area check out Sharpshooters. 5x range pass for $40. Rapid fire, steel and aluminum cases ok. All pistoil calibers allowed I believe up to 500s&W. Hollowpoints allowed aas well as shotguns with no restrictions to shot size.

Not my favorite place in the world but due to less restrictive ammo and caliber rules I frequently head there to functio test shotguns and defensive type firearms with hollowpoints.

Insight range in Artesia is also cheaper than sone of the OC ranges but has no rapid fire and makes yu buy their ammo if shooting a 12 gauge. Hollowpoints ok though. I frget what the rules are there on steel and aluminum cases.

[us_citizen]

If the angry russian is out of there he must be gone as of 2 weeks ago when I was in there. I asked for pricing on a particular gun during their ATF audit and he tried to sell me something else, never even got me the price. Asked why I would want that when what he was showing me was cheaper and "just as good"

[WallySparx]

Insight range in Artesia is also cheaper than sone of the OC ranges but has no rapid fire and makes yu buy their ammo if shooting a 12 gauge. Hollowpoints ok though. I frget what the rules are there on steel and aluminum cases.

insight is my home range since it's right around the corner. it's also under new ownership. $12 gives you however much range time you want. all handguns ok, pistol calibers out of long guns up to .44mag, shotguns ok (i think they might have changed their rules on having to buy their shells, but not 100% on that). nice clean facility. the staff ranges from friendly to indifferent; some aren't that knowledgeable, but will ask someone else instead of BSing you an answer. as far as ROs go, they can get a bit overzealous when it comes to getting anywhere close to rapid fire. on the other hand, i've seen them have zero tolerance for the real unsafe stuff, like morons stepping off the line to pose with a gun and covering others with the muzzle in the process.

no rules on steel and aluminum cases that i know of. in fact in the few occasions i've had to grab some of their reloads, there were a few aluminum cases amongst the 9mm and 38spl.

and perhaps the best part, only $45 for out of state transfers.

and if you're doing ppt, as long as both the buyer and seller know what they're doing, you're in and out pretty quick.

[maschronic]

does On-Target have LEO membership discounts?
how is OC indoor range in Brea?

any what is the closest range that allows rifles ( I heard On-Target does?) and the closest out door range ?

I'm in the buena park area.

and also where is Ade's shop and contact info? i'd like to visit. as you can tell i'm moving up to OC soon so i'd like to get some gun info before I move. Thanks

ask80,

here is the info for Ade....if you don't already have it. he is a really good guy!!!!

Ade's Gun Shop
225 S. Tustin St.
Orange, CA
Down from Selman Chevy
714-744-3373
Hours are a little spotty.
Mon,Tue, Thurs., Fri. 1:00pm-ish tp around 6 or 7 pm
Sat. 10:00ish to 4:00ish
Closed on Wed. and Sun

[choochboost]

AFAIK, On Target does not allow Wolf Ammo, and I think the same rule is in effect at Firing Line. On Target allows hollow points, Firing Line does not. At On Target you can get a "double tap permit" that will allow you to blast away at your heart's content, including drawing from a holster. Firing Line is quite strict with the one-shot-per-second rule. At On Target, as a member, you can rent out one of the bays for special events or private shoots. $100 per hour on a weeknight, and $175 per hour on the weekend. You can't get a private bay at Firing Line. Yes, On Target gives LEO discounts.

FWIW, the "angry russian" as he is known in this thread, is still at On Target. Even though he is no longer the owner, he still works there.

[Kruzr]

You can't get a private bay at Firing Line.

Actually, you can (8 lanes). Prices vary by time.

[choochboost]

That's good to know. I inquired about it but was told no. Why am I not surprised?

[Kruzr]

That's good to know. I inquired about it but was told no. Why am I not surprised?

Most likely your attitude (as displayed in this thread.) Complaining because range officers actually enforce rules rather than "look the other way" isn't necessarily the kind of people who are welcome at most shooting ranges.

RO's don't make rules. The range owner does. The NRA teaches certified RO's (like those at TFL) to follow the range protocol. The range protocol is available for you to read if you like. It is a rather thick 3-ring binder so be sure and leave lots of time.

IMO, calling them (and me (Mark)) anti's because they won't allow you to break the rules says a lot about your lack of maturity.

[choochboost]

You're on the receiving end of my posts so you're in a better position than me to determine the tone I come across with. I don't mean to have attitude. Rather, I'm trying to be helpful and provide as much detail as I can about my experiences at both On Target and Firing Line.

One of the managers (Ron) is not very helpful with the CCW process. Although that's his prerogative, it just doesn't seem to be the most helpful position to take with other gun owners. The RO's at On Target, on the other hand, seem less confrontational and much more relaxed (without compromising safety), making the whole shooting experience more enjoyable, and making me feel like they're happy that I'm giving them my business.

Regarding safety, if you watch me shoot, you'll find me to be very safety conscious on the range. That's how I train. I have a very high expectation of safety practices, and get on people's cases when they're not practicing safe gun handling. I have never posed a safety risk by my actions at any range I have shot at. So I'm not expecting the staff to look the other way when safety is compromised.

It doesn't really matter to me who makes the rules - staff or owner. I was just sharing my perspective that things seem a little uptight at Firing Line compared to On Target. I don't have to like the rules that I consider restrictive at Firing Line (although I will adhere to them), nor do I have to shoot there. But I will continue to shoot at both ranges, as I paid for membership at both, and both give me the opportunity to do what I need to do...shoot on a regular basis.

[bear308]

Yes, On Target gives LEO discounts.

and so does the firing-line. They cut the yearly membership from $150 to $75 (free range time - unlimited, and a few other things.)

[bear308]

When they first went to the granulated rubber backstop at The Firing Line, shotguns were still allowed. The second night, a guy comes out of the range and says, I keep getting hit with something. It turned out that the birdshot was bouncing off the rubber and coming all the way back to the firing line. We then allowed slugs. That lasted two days when the dents in the steel brows started multiplying.

The owner would rather be safe than sorry and doesn't want the constant repair bills so no more shotguns.

did you help with the swap?

[Kruzr]

did you help with the swap?

I watched a whole lot . They hired temporary help and Caswell had their technicians there. They supervised the building of the frames and watched as the rubber was loaded......by hand. The rear brows had to be relocated. All three ranges were converted over a two or three week period. I think Northridge was first, then we started, then your range started and finished before they came back to finish HB.

The target distance stayed the same but the bottom of the rubber comes out much further on the floor than the old lead trap did. This backstop made it much cleaner. Bullets do not get flattened in the rubber. They come out whole with rifling. Other than some .357, most still have the jackets fully intact. They still go to the recycler but with the jackets rather than crushed lead, it's much safer for those doing maintenance also.