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  • #31
    Powder_Keg
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2013
    • 2203

    Originally posted by Click Boom
    Surprised nobody said glock... doesn't get much easier than that.
    Originally posted by Powder_Keg
    I feel that my Glock 19 and M&P Compact 9mm seem to have more "manageable" slides.
    Glock 19 ^^^^

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    • #32
      63j300
      Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 386

      Wife has the same problem and she did not want a revolver.
      Sig 238 - 380
      Shield 9mm
      She has both
      2 Timothy 3

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      • #33
        audiophil2
        Senior Member
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2007
        • 8736

        My wife has carpel tunnel and arthritis in her hands. She typically can only rack a well worn 1911 slide but she has had an easy time with the VP9 slide thanks to the tabs that stick out.

        One of the easiest ways to rack a slide is to keep the gun as close to your torso as possible. Assuming right handed, the muzzle should be pointing to the left of the shooter so make sure to be standing sideways at a range or make sure the gun is still pointed in a safe direction. Then with the left hand gripping over the top of the slide (thmnb would be on the left side of the slide and left elbow pointing left/right elbow pointing right) and the right hand holding the gun normally push both hands toward each other. This gives so much more leverage as compared to holding the gun away from the body and racking with one hand or the other only.

        This video is close to the way to do it. SHe has the gun too far from her torso but it might be for a better angle on the video.

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        • #34
          MXRider
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2927

          Originally posted by Steve G
          She must be a big girl. I shoot my Beretta well but it is HUGE
          With a grip change they can be made to be quite reasonable in grip size. Very similar to a 9/40 Glock frame. The Vertec's are pretty sweet too if you want a 1911 style grip (though hard to come by).

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          • #35
            MXRider
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 2927

            Originally posted by dozer wright
            Took the Girlfriend now wife to buy her a pistol. Three shops and a couple dozen pistols tried. The 92 fs was one of 3 she could rack the slide on. The 92 fs won cause I had mags for it and it fit her hand best.
            Glad it worked out for you. I have 2 of the 92A1's and they are great pistols.

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            • #36
              dyson
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2013
              • 4342

              HK VP9 is really easy to rack

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              • #37
                BigPimping
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2010
                • 21443

                My Smith SD9VE is really easy as 9mm handguns go.
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                • #38
                  Steve_In_29
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 5682

                  Originally posted by MXRider
                  Glad it worked out for you. I have 2 of the 92A1's and they are great pistols.
                  !7+ years in the Marines and "great pistol" was never something I ever heard in regards the 92F.

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                  • #39
                    MXRider
                    Banned
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 2927

                    Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                    !7+ years in the Marines and "great pistol" was never something I ever heard in regards the 92F.
                    Imagine you buy a car made in 1980, that never had an oil change, never had a tire rotation, never had a service done in it's life. Now imagine driving that car in the year 2014. That basically sums up the vast majority of military M9 pistols.

                    Check out a new manufacture gun and then keep with the manufacturers service recommendations. It will be an entirely new experience. The 92 series has proven to be an incredibly reliable and accurate platform.

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                    • #40
                      choprzrul
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6544

                      Beretta 92 + lighter spring + hook index and middle fingers over the safety/decocker. very easy to rack a slide like this, and also very easy to do chamber checks.

                      I knowx non-conventional, but functional.

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                      • #41
                        Caseless
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2005
                        • 1650

                        Dual recoil spring types. HK USP for sure. Glock gen 4, maybe. Full size pistols are much easier to rack than compacts, which is easier than subcompacts.

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                        • #42
                          Steve_In_29
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 5682

                          Originally posted by MXRider
                          Imagine you buy a car made in 1980, that never had an oil change, never had a tire rotation, never had a service done in it's life. Now imagine driving that car in the year 2014. That basically sums up the vast majority of military M9 pistols.

                          Check out a new manufacture gun and then keep with the manufacturers service recommendations. It will be an entirely new experience. The 92 series has proven to be an incredibly reliable and accurate platform.
                          I have messed with civilian versions and am still not impressed. The pistol is larger then it needs to be for the caliber and capacity.

                          The 92 was in development by Beretta for over 15 years before we got it in the military (due to it being shoved down our throats by politicians) and yet we still had MAJOR issues like slides cracking and departing the weapon into the shooters face to deal with.

                          To make up for the 9mm round we were taught to double and later triple tap the bad guy. So that 15 rounds of 9mm doesn't go as far as people think.

                          Now as far as shooting paper goes I will admit the 92F was much easier to score Expert with due to the 9mm round having little recoil. Though I had previously qual'ed Expert with those even more worn out and harder kicking 1911's EVERY time as well.

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                          • #43
                            MXRider
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2927

                            Originally posted by Steve_In_29
                            I have messed with civilian versions and am still not impressed. The pistol is larger then it needs to be for the caliber and capacity.



                            The 92 was in development by Beretta for over 15 years before we got it in the military (due to it being shoved down our throats by politicians) and yet we still had MAJOR issues like slides cracking and departing the weapon into the shooters face to deal with.



                            To make up for the 9mm round we were taught to double and later triple tap the bad guy. So that 15 rounds of 9mm doesn't go as far as people think.



                            Now as far as shooting paper goes I will admit the 92F was much easier to score Expert with due to the 9mm round having little recoil. Though I had previously qual'ed Expert with those even more worn out and harder kicking 1911's EVERY time as well.

                            You also realize you guys are running FMJ and not hollow points. Might want to read up on the FBI's recent findings on 9mm duty loads.

                            The slides cracking was an early version and had been addressed. As has the locking block issues.

                            If you don't like it that's fine, but they have been proven in combat when properly maintained and they have been issued to many LE agencies for years. Most of the problems are not user based and are either maintenance, magazine, or ammunition related.

                            Many of us are running them without issue over long periods.

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                            • #44
                              Bullitt01
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 3905

                              Originally posted by SoCalEnthusiast
                              I've met some males who have a hard time racking the slide.
                              .............hmmmmmmmm

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                              • #45
                                unusedusername
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 4124

                                Assuming you don't want to switch to a revolver, then a gun with a slide that had more weight to it will require a lighter weight spring to resist the recoil from any given load. Additionally, longer barrels and lower pressure cartridges will lower the recoil spring weight.

                                Look for a steel gun with long barrel. You could go for something with less pressure then a 9mm also. A common caliber for this would be a 45, which while larger in diameter operates with significantly less pressure then a 9mm resulting in a lighter spring. Some folks consider a .380 to be acceptable as well.

                                You could also try practicing with a revolvers speed loader or get a revolver cut for moon clips. Moon clips are just as fast as as magazine for reloading, although they typically hold a little less 6-7 vs 8-10+.

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