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  • #16
    meaty-btz
    Calguns Addict
    • Sep 2010
    • 8980

    None of my FFLs will take the change of address card as valid proof of residency. So carrying that little piece of paper with your sig and date mean NOTHING to an FFL. Only a Cal ID printed address or Cal Driver's License address is valid proof. Lucky for me I've always had other proofs. No, I don't carry round a stupid little piece of paper with my license.

    As I've legally changed my address 4 times..

    Originally posted by seal20
    You don't get a new license for change of address....so, I wonder how they handle this?

    Per the CA DMV website:

    How to notify DMV when I change my address
    Law states that you must notify DMV within 10 days of changing your address. There is no charge to change your address, and you may notify DMV by any of the following ways:
    Complete your change of address online.
    Call any DMV office at 1 (800) 777-0133 and request that a change of address form be mailed to you. It will take 5 days for you to receive it. Complete the information required on the form, then mail it to the address listed at the top of the form.
    Download the Change of Address form DMV 14, complete the information, and mail it to the address listed at the top of the form.
    Visit any DMV office, complete a change of address form, and give it to a technician. The technician will give you a Change of Address Certificate card (DL 43) to complete and carry with your license.
    If you do 2 or 3 above, type or write in ink your new address on a small piece of paper, sign and date it. Carry this piece of paper with your license. Do not tape or staple the change of address information to your driver license.
    ...but their exists also in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to attempt to lower the powerful to their own level, and reduces men to prefer equality in slavery to inequality with freedom.

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    • #17
      Fishslayer
      In Memoriam
      • Jan 2010
      • 13035

      Originally posted by 3006Garand
      That sucks man. Maybe your cousin can make you feel better.
      Ouch!
      "He is your friend, your partner, your defender, your dog.
      You are his life, his love, his leader. He will be yours, faithful and true, to the last beat of his heart.
      You owe it to him to be worthy of such devotion."


      Originally Posted by JackRydden224
      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
      Originally posted by redcliff
      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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      • #18
        beardog308
        Banned
        • Feb 2014
        • 577

        Go to AAA and have your car registration amended to match the licence. It's around $20. I live in the mountains and am required to have a po box which is what's on my licence and is a no go for firearms purchases. I added my physical address to the car registration and all is good

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        • #19
          Sikvenum93
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 2181

          Originally posted by beardog308
          Go to AAA and have your car registration amended to match the licence.
          I can't do that because with my name on it the insurance agent said we'd be paying almost $8,000 a year. I just turned 21 so........
          Wise men seldom speak. - Arcus

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          • #20
            sl0re10
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7242

            Originally posted by JazzyJames
            Rifle gear just put that policy into place a month or so ago.
            ugh; so maybe there is a reason behind it (re: state gov bugging them)...

            obviously its going to hurt impulse sales if you can't use the time of the sale as the start of process for getting your documents togeather...

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            • #21
              kcjr1125
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2012
              • 3883

              Originally posted by Rule .308
              you show up without the proper paperwork and somehow it is Turner's fault, really?
              ^ +1
              Originally posted by OHOD
              I guess I could rub my muff against his exwifes muff. Is that what they call muff diving?
              Originally posted by ivanimal
              I love you! (some Homo)
              I am a Gay muslim sometimes.
              we never had the problems in CA till the whiteys took over. We used to hunt, fish, roam, then they showed up and wanted to be civilized.............Ruined it for everyone!

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              • #22
                vliberatore
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Dec 2011
                • 10055

                Originally posted by Rule .308
                you show up without the proper paperwork and somehow it is Turner's fault, really?
                Don't you know? OP knows it all, duh!
                Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                • #23
                  Josh3239
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 9197

                  Originally posted by Rule .308
                  you show up without the proper paperwork and somehow it is Turner's fault, really?
                  Beat me to it.

                  This is like when illegals sue for nonsense because something isn't available to them and they aren't supposed to be here in the first place.

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                  • #24
                    Josh3239
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 9197

                    Originally posted by sl0re10
                    ugh; so maybe there is a reason behind it (re: state gov bugging them)...

                    obviously its going to hurt impulse sales if you can't use the time of the sale as the start of process for getting your documents togeather...
                    Anyone who has ever worked a gun store knows that the frequency of people who show up with the incorrect paperwork is unreasonable high. People come in to pick up without address corrections or proofs and it is a giant pain. Even if they do bring something, it seems half the time it is wrong like a vehicle insurance, passport, or a bank statement. Or they bring the right one that is no good; like a utility bill from a year ago or an expired vehicle reg. Then they argue. And it turns to a nightmare if the FFL has already the hit the deliver button on the DES.

                    If I owned my own shop, everything due on DROS or come back with the right stuff.

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                    • #25
                      Sikvenum93
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2014
                      • 2181

                      Originally posted by Josh3239
                      Beat me to it.

                      This is like when illegals sue for nonsense because something isn't available to them and they aren't supposed to be here in the first place.
                      So if a shop didn't require a document to start the process of purchasing something the first two times you did that same process, there have been no new laws regarding said process, would it not be reasonable to assume you could start said process without those documents? It's not as if I was requesting them to do anything illegal here and all my other particulars are correct. Turner's were just being douches.
                      Wise men seldom speak. - Arcus

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                      • #26
                        Jeep67cj5
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 691

                        That's what happens when you go to Turners

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                        • #27
                          ke6guj
                          Moderator
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 23725

                          Originally posted by Sikvenum93
                          So if a shop didn't require a document to start the process of purchasing something the first two times you did that same process, there have been no new laws regarding said process, would it not be reasonable to assume you could start said process without those documents? It's not as if I was requesting them to do anything illegal here and all my other particulars are correct. Turner's were just being douches.
                          yes, it would be reasonable to assume that, but there are reasons why a shop may have one policy for store sales and another for PPTs.

                          if you went into to turners and purchased something but did not have all your paperwork, they would be willing to start the sale, because if you never brought your paperwork in, they'd just keep the non-refundable portion of the deposit and put the firearm back on the shelf for sale.

                          but for your PPT, if you never bring in acceptable paperwork, then Turner's has to get the seller involved again to have him come pick up the firearm. and if the seller won't come in ("I got paid, it's not my problem anymore" or the seller comes up prohibited), then Turner's has to deal with turning the firearm to the local LEA. And all this for the $10 PPT fee. So, as you can see, just because they are flexible on a Turner's sale doesn't mean that they have/want to be as flexible on a PPT.

                          And it isn't just turner's that does this for PPTs, I seem to recall other CGN vendors posting the same thing when customers complained about their PPT policy.
                          Jack



                          Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA?

                          No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer.

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                          • #28
                            pluke the 2
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 1926

                            Pic of cousin or bacon option. 2x getting your **** together

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                            • #29
                              Sikvenum93
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2014
                              • 2181

                              Originally posted by ke6guj
                              yes, it would be reasonable to assume that, but there are reasons why a shop may have one policy for store sales and another for PPTs.

                              if you went into to turners and purchased something but did not have all your paperwork, they would be willing to start the sale, because if you never brought your paperwork in, they'd just keep the non-refundable portion of the deposit and put the firearm back on the shelf for sale.

                              but for your PPT, if you never bring in acceptable paperwork, then Turner's has to get the seller involved again to have him come pick up the firearm. and if the seller won't come in ("I got paid, it's not my problem anymore" or the seller comes up prohibited), then Turner's has to deal with turning the firearm to the local LEA. And all this for the $10 PPT fee. So, as you can see, just because they are flexible on a Turner's sale doesn't mean that they have/want to be as flexible on a PPT.

                              And it isn't just turner's that does this for PPTs, I seem to recall other CGN vendors posting the same thing when customers complained about their PPT policy.
                              I understand. OK so maybe that Turner guy was just being vigilant, still a PITA though. I already filled out the form saying I'm not a criminal/insane/druggie etc.
                              Wise men seldom speak. - Arcus

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                              • #30
                                Mayor McRifle
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2013
                                • 7678

                                FFLs seem to have different requirements. I moved a few months ago, and my driver's license still has my old address (even though I submitted a change of address form with the DMV). My vehicle registration has my new, correct address. I bought a handgun on Friday from my favorite LGS. They said the updated vehicle registration was all they needed. A few weeks ago, I tried to buy a rifle from Bass Pro Shop. They said that because my driver's license address was not current, I would need to bring in two utility bills in my name from the last 30 days. I had my updated vehicle registration with me, but they said it wasn't enough. I left BPS without buying the rifle. I won't be buying any guns from them for the next year and a half, until I get a new driver's license issued. I'm not going to play the utility bill game.
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