PPT @ Turners

[mikereyes]

My first PPT was also at Turners. After waiting 1.5 hour for our turn, we decided just to go to Alamo Pawn down the street and were done in 15 minutes, which is somewhat slow for them.

I would consider slowly removing my nuts with a disc sander before I'd do a PPT at Turner's.

Find any place else.

I can't agree more with madoka. I will never do a PPT at Turners. I would rather drive another 20-30 mins to any other gun shop. You might even finish faster than you would going to Turners! I don't hate Turners but PPT's there really suck. So much FUD from those guys it makes me want to reach over the counter and slap the **** out of them.

Alamo and Carson Pawn are so much better and faster. Most of my PPT's take less than 10mins. In & Out. Done.

[perpetual otter]

He appeared to be the resident "gun guy" because while he was helping me, he kept butting into other reps/customers conversations and telling them "oh x gun is better because I have experience with it." Hopefully he doesn't work there anymore.

LoL

He probably got promoted!

[razr]

Never had any issues with PPT off roster at Turners. Takes a bit longer than other places but if it is a more convenient location go for it.

[thegamettt]

so it sounds like a general consensus that Turners takes a long time to do it.. what exactly causes the delay besides waiting for a clerk? Do they just do everything slower, because they employ slower humans?

[Dattebayo]

so it sounds like a general consensus that Turners takes a long time to do it.. what exactly causes the delay besides waiting for a clerk? Do they just do everything slower, because they employ slower humans?

No, it is because of their process which requires a great deal of time to accomplish. It is their company procedure, not the employees. They have to first take in the gun into their inventory which requires the employee to input every detail about the firearm into the inventory system. Which at this point, if the seller never purchased firearms at Turner's, they are required to input their name, address, phone number, along with pretty much all their information on their driver's license - like weight, height, eye color, hair color, dob, and expiration date of DV. If the seller has purchased a firearm at Turner's before, this information would already be in the system and this step can be skipped.

After, they have to take photo copies of buyer and seller driver's license then also copy the buyer's second proof/hsc or in your case just your CCW card.

After which, if the buyer has not purchased a firearm at Turner's before, they are then required to input all the same information into the system as the buyer in the previous step. Also which if the buyer has purchased a firearms from Turner's before, this step can be skipped.

Then after they have to go into the DES system then input all the information into there. Would be quick if the buyer and seller has Driver's licenses that are correct and can be scanned, otherwise this has to be manually inputted. Then the gun information also has to be inputted into the DES after that.

When that is said and done, each party must check the paperwork to ensure it was inputted in correctly and sign a preview, then sign a final copy with seller's requirement of a thumb print.

After that, the employee must then do a safe handling demo, which in your case with a CCW, you are exempt from that demo, but to ensure their packet is complete, you must still sign the safe handling affidavit.

Then the employee must go to a manager and have all the paperwork checked off to ensure all the the information is correct and nothing is missing.

This can take as fast as 15 minutes or as long as an hour depending on the situation.

You will be charged for a lock if the lock is not the OEM lock that came with the gun.

It taken me about 8 minutes to type out the process, imagine having to actually do it.

['ol shooter]

I have done several at Turner's without issue. Make sure the gun has a lock in the box if it's a handgun, or else they will make you buy one. They usually tell you that you can return it and get a refund when you pick up the gun.

[thegamettt]

wow! @dattebayo thank you for all that info man! Much appreciated. So it sounds they are just overly thorough.. not a bad thing I guess if you have all your ducks in a row.

[thegamettt]

I have done several at Turner's without issue. Make sure the gun has a lock in the box if it's a handgun, or else they will make you buy one. They usually tell you that you can return it and get a refund when you pick up the gun.

the gun im trading is a Springfield 1911 with the ILS(integral locking system), does that require the new owner to still buy a lock?

[razr]

the gun im trading is a Springfield 1911 with the ILS(integral locking system), does that require the new owner to still buy a lock?

Guns must have a cable lock/trigger lock with it in the box when you do the PPT. ILS wont count? Fed law.

[Dattebayo]

the gun im trading is a Springfield 1911 with the ILS(integral locking system), does that require the new owner to still buy a lock?

To my knowledge, I could be outdated on this, but Springfield ILS is the only locking system incorporated into the firearm which has been approved by the CA DOJ as an approved lock.

[razr]

To my knowledge, I could be outdated on this, but Springfield ILS is the only locking system incorporated into the firearm which has been approved by the CA DOJ as an approved lock.

My bad, this is actually correct. Have them verify that the ILS works. SA includes a cable lock with their pistols regardless.

[plan-b]

It does not matter if it is legal in California or not for a PPT.
I would recommend that the box with large sticker saying not legal in California not make it into the store. Even though it does not make a difference, all you need is some clerk to think it does.

I get the spirit of the post, but the wording should be clarified. So I'm nitpicking a bit. It does matter if it is legal in CA or not (e.g. if it can be classified as an assault weapon under CA definitions). It does not matter if it is non-roster for the purposes of a PPT.

[Dattebayo]

My bad, this is actually correct. Have them verify that the ILS works. SA includes a cable lock with their pistols regardless.

Actually Springfield does not include locks with firearms that have ILS installed into them, atleast in my experience with the Springfield I have owned and the ones I have personally delivered.

[razr]

Actually Springfield does not include locks with firearms that have ILS installed into them, atleast in my experience with the Springfield I have owned and the ones I have personally delivered.

I am sure my loaded came with a cable lock and I think the RO had one as well. Id have to look. I could be wrong.

[mikeinla]

I just did a PPT an hour ago at Turners Pasadena. I purchased a GEN 4 Glock that is off list. A lock was in the box so I did not have to buy one. The entire process took about 20 painless minutes. I have always had smooth transactions at Turners