Ever get burned on a PPT?

[metasys]

I bought a pistol PPT, checked the gun out in the store, paid the seller and did the paperwork. Went to pick up the gun 10 days later and they told me they couldn't release that I was delayed. Took me 3 months to find out the gun was "stolen". Sheriff confiscated the weapon and it took the seller several more months to get things straightened out. Finally got it after about a 8 month ordeal.

[DEPUTYBILL]

I'm pretty sure all of those are illegal.

I think all of them are illegal as well, except the storage fee. I think that is not clear under the law. The place that I know that charges a storage fee, charges $35 a day after the ten day wait. I now longer due PPT's there.
My point would be to check with the shop on "their rules" before you go there.

[dyson]

I do everything inside, usually check with the shop if its okay though. Never been told to take it outside.

Cash prior to paperwork.

[Junkie]

I think all of them are illegal as well, except the storage fee. I think that is not clear under the law. The place that I know that charges a storage fee, charges $35 a day after the ten day wait. I now longer due PPT's there.
My point would be to check with the shop on "their rules" before you go there.

$35/day? Holy ****...

[THEJAPINO]

I've always did the inspection and payment inside the LGS before paperwork was started.

What's the proper etiquette for a tabletop FFL? They're not usually a store front and when you get there, it's usually to do the transfer. I guess you can ask the FFL if an inspection was ok before the transfer but what if it wasn't? What say you CG'ers?

[dirtrider04]

This^^^^^

Worth repeating ....

This isn't complicated.

1. You agree to buy my Glock.
2. We decide to meet at OC Armory, because Turners Blows.
3. We already have each other's cell number. You text me that you're
In the parking lot.
4. Exiting our cars, we shake hands and walk to my Trunk.
5. I open the trunk, you fondle and inspect the Glock. Below the line of sight of others.
6. You like it.
7. You hand over the CASH to me.
8. I lift the weapon out of the trunk and we walk into OC Armory.
9. I place the Glock box on the corner counter; Mike inspects it to make sure it's unloaded.
10. We both hand over our papers. You, your CDL and Car Registration, and HSC card. Me, my DL only. We fill out papers. We thumb print.
They make copies, they ask both of us questions.
11. Done deal, you pay $35 bucks.
12. Go home. Come back in 10 as pointed out in your Receipt by Mike
13. Total time 14 minutes. You take a bad cell photo of Glock to post on Cal Guns.
14. The pilgrims over at Turners are still looking at their pulled number and realize 14 people are ahead of them.
15. You post a positive itrader rating, I do the same for you.

The End

#13 is GUARENTEED to take place. haha.

[Steve_In_29]

Money exchanges hands first. Never had a problem either as buyer or seller.

[Steve_In_29]

I think all of them are illegal as well, except the storage fee. I think that is not clear under the law. The place that I know that charges a storage fee, charges $35 a day after the ten day wait. I now longer due PPT's there.
My point would be to check with the shop on "their rules" before you go there.

Post the name of the LGS or it didn't happen.

[vintagearms]

Some gun stores frown upon inspecting or exchanging money on their premises. I usually call ahead and ask. Ive exchanged money before, during, but never after the paperwork has been filled out.

[Thepug99]

Well even if you do get the money what if the buyer fails dros. You going give it back to him right. So is the money really yours yet

[gwoneg]

I think it really depends on the shop. I was the buyer in a PPT where we met at Ammo Bros in Ontario. They don't allow money to change hands or weapons inspections inside the store. There's at least one other store I can think of in San Diego with a sign saying no weapons inspections in the lobby. On the other hand, I was the buyer in another PPT that went down at Gussler's in Santee (a home/garage FFL). I put the money on the counter at the start of the paperwork and the seller picked it up when everything was concluded.

[Steve_In_29]

Well even if you do get the money what if the buyer fails dros. You going give it back to him right. So is the money really yours yet

Not necessarily. Just because the buyer failed his dros there is no set policy that you need to return the money. It is up to the buyer to know whether or not he can pass a background check and the onus is on him for the failure. You keep the money and IIRC the LGS can turn the pistol into the police.

[silent bark]

what if you are the buyer and the gun is stolen? you just lose out on the money?

[Anthracis]

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[Steve_In_29]

what if you are the buyer and the gun is stolen? you just lose out on the money?

It then becomes a criminal matter and most likely yes you will be "out the money". Just like any instance where a person is found to have bought an item found to be stolen and recovered by the police.