Solvent Traps

[BumBum]

Listen to the non-attorney FUD-callers at your own risk. They have nothing on the line - no malpractice risk, no risk of losing liberty, won't be paying anyone's defense attorney fees. While it may be fun for them to argue what they think a statute means on an internet message board, I assure you it is not so much fun trying to engage in the same game with an ATF agent in an interrogation room.

In an unrelated example, see Chuck Michel's latest piece about legal advice on Calguns: "Free" Legal Advice is Worth Every Penny You Pay For It

ETA: I guess the link is not working at the moment, but I'll leave it there in case it goes back up.

[CSACANNONEER]

I guess I need to clarify for those not reading what someone posts entirely (a constant issue it seems):

I stated:



I clearly stated Solvent Trap not Solvent Trap Adapter .... those are 2 entirely different things.

Solvent Traps ( pressurized oil filters ) would be illegal to screw onto the end of a barrel of any firearm in CA if you are not LEO or Military.

Solvent Trap Adapters are no different than a muzzle brake or compensator legally BUT they definitely do not trap any type of solvents or any liquid for that matter.

The exemption for attaching suppressor to stationary units has always meant for stationary guns, firearms that are not portable. A sound trap is a box designed to shoot firearms into to suppress sound and capture bullets for testing firearms, they can not be made to attach to a firearm and have to be fixed in place (bolted to floor etc.). They is NO legal way that a device can be attached to the barrel of a portable firearm that suppresses sound, regardless of whether the sound suppressing device is stationary or not, and not be classified as a sound suppressor under Federal Law.

If someone is THAT worried that certain copper removing solvents will damage their barrel finish then just get a long metal tube and thread it to screw onto the muzzle that way the solvent will not be close enough to splash onto the barrel.

Please note that I am clarifying your post for those who don't quite understand. I said these adapters could be legally used to screw into a solvent tank and slip fit the barrel into. You keep talking about "threaded onto the barrel" but, many of these adapters only thread onto the solvent tank and slip fit to the barrel.

[Grumpyoldretiredcop]

many of these adapters only thread onto the solvent tank and slip fit to the barrel.

Got an example to show? All I see are threaded adapters with the exception of a 10/22 1/2X28 adapter I saw on eBay. I still haven't seen a solvent trap with 1/2"X28 thread - and by that I mean a threaded container meant to catch solvent from a barrel. Plenty of other things in the world with that thread, though.

Bedroll lawyer all you want, folks... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Call it a bunch of roses if you want, it still quacks.

[xrMike]

My exploration into this topic didn't last very long:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=840429&highlight=solvent+trap

Look at all the smartass interweb wannabe-lawyers in that thread.

[xrMike]

They are perfectly legal in and of themselves.

Exactly. Just make sure if you're using an oil filter as your trap, that it NEVER EVER EVER develops a mysterious hole through the top of it. Additionally, I would store my oil filter solvent trap with my other automotive maintenance and repair items. And my adapter would never be stored with my guns, or gun cleaning stuff, or near my auto repair stuff. For example, it would be tossed into my nuts and bolts and threaded fittings drawer or something, where it would be hard for anybody to manufacture a phony conspiracy charge.

If they are screwed onto the end of your barrel they are not legal by any means, so what good is the "solvent trap" if you never attach it?

Not true. Or at least I don't think so. The posts in that other thread by 'ivanimal' and 'vintagearms' are the only ones that are true, that matter, and are to-the-point.

We're all adults here and can make our own decisions and risk assessments, so spare me the wannabe-lawyer jabs.

[rockblaster]

As long as your solvent trap does not have an exit bullet hole through the center of the bottom, you are good to go. I bought one of those adapters a couple of years ago and figured it would make cleaning a firearm more of a headache. It's now somewhere i the mix of my 50 lb bolt bucket. The exit hole is the jail sentence!

[CSACANNONEER]

Got an example to show? All I see are threaded adapters with the exception of a 10/22 1/2X28 adapter I saw on eBay. I still haven't seen a solvent trap with 1/2"X28 thread - and by that I mean a threaded container meant to catch solvent from a barrel. Plenty of other things in the world with that thread, though.

Bedroll lawyer all you want, folks... if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck. Call it a bunch of roses if you want, it still quacks.

The 10-22 one is common but not the only one. I've seen them for Minis and other guns without threaded barrels. Here's one for a Mosin: http://www.ebay.com/itm/MP91-SOLVENT...item3a967331ee

[CamW]

I use a Muzzlemate when I clean my rifles, it works very well.

http://www.accufireproducts.com/muzzlemate.html

There's also the Patch Hog, you screw a water or soda bottle into it.

https://www.boretech.com/products/patchhog.shtml

[BrassCase]

This is getting dumb, no one in particular to blame though.

Who is going to run a patch down the barrel into the "trap" and then pull that same dirty patch back through the barrel and chamber?

I would like to hear the conversation between someone with an oil filter screwed onto their rifle barrel explaining to a BLM Ranger or other LEO why it is there. At least with a 2 litre plastic coke bottled taped on you could come up with some lame excuse such as "I just wanted to see how this would effect my rifle windage by blocking the wind as the bullet exits the barrel" before going to jail.

[CSACANNONEER]

This is getting dumb, no one in particular to blame though.

Who is going to run a patch down the barrel into the "trap" and then pull that same dirty patch back through the barrel and chamber?

I would like to hear the conversation between someone with an oil filter screwed onto their rifle barrel explaining to a BLM Ranger or other LEO why it is there. At least with a 2 litre plastic coke bottled taped on you could come up with some lame excuse such as "I just wanted to see how this would effect my rifle windage by blocking the wind as the bullet exits the barrel" before going to jail.

I see a few shooters push patches through their bore and into a jar or bottle slipped over their muzzle. They pull the rod back but not the patch.

[toby]

Never used enough bore cleaner on my patches to see a need for a solvent trap. I simply lay out a rag under the muzzle and if any drips it's soaked up .

[hermosabeach]

Bump for:
JOHN J

My solvent trap post is gone
How lame is that?

[Sapperforward]

Aw now that's just mean.

[slomofo]

Didn't read thread, but I stick my barrel into a Powerade bottle, that's my solvent trap.

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[whipkiller]

Not me, I light some candles maybe a little background music, lube the tip of the rod and slip it in slowly. If she's really dirty you may need to go at it a little rougher, you know really get in there and scrape the walls. Sometimes on real special occasions I'll even go for her gas port, gotta be careful though if you're too rough she may become temperamental.

DAMMIT!!